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01-10-2006, 12:14 PM #1
Pheedno's PCT seems rather aggressive...
Pheedno’s standard PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
I’m not arguing the effectiveness, nor the logic substantiating it. I’m only questioning the necessity of running Clom at 100mgs for 30 days (or Nolva at 40mgs for that matter). Especially in light of the recent Clom studies citing negative sides, the PCT’s presence of Nolva and l-dex, the proliferation of the two-week drop off (1-14 days – Clom 100mgs/Nolva 40mgs; Day 15 to recovery Clom 50mgs/Nolva 20mgs), and the diversity of possible cycle components.
Is there forum consensus for Pheedno’s PCT, or further dissention?
Please posit your own arguments and conjecture regarding the topic, but for the sake of conversation if you will, let’s first consider a basic 12wk Test E 500 cycle. If deviant, what PCT would you employ and why?
Thank you for contributing,
GoldLast edited by GoldieTheMack; 01-10-2006 at 12:15 PM. Reason: err
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01-10-2006, 12:25 PM #2
These are by no means recent discoveries about clomid causing vision problems in some users. These same complaints came from prople running clomid at 100/50.........
Even for a basic cycle like the one your asking I would run the PCT the way I have for all my cycle 100mg CLomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex for 30 days or more. At minimum clomid / nolva for 30 or more days would work...... JMO
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01-10-2006, 01:03 PM #3
werd..........
if you don't like the pct as it's laid out..
do one that recovers your system..
I'll keep using the tried and true..The answer to your every question
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01-10-2006, 01:07 PM #4
agree with the abouv tried and tested!you think that is agressive i run 10 days hcg ed runnin upto the start of clomid therapy,as well as 300mg clomid day1,200mg day2,so forth!!
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01-10-2006, 01:32 PM #5
Interesting info, so you would recommend me to get some Clomid and Arimidex for PCT booz or mudman? I was planning on just use HCG in middle, and 2-3 weeks before PCT, then use nolva @ 40mg for 2 weeks, then 20mg for 2weeks. But I am more and more reconsidering to put in clomid and A-dex, how serious is that vision problem anyway?
Sorry if I hijacked, but when the topic is up, seems dumb to start a new thread.
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01-10-2006, 01:35 PM #6Originally Posted by spywizard
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01-10-2006, 04:40 PM #7
I don't like AI in PCT. My PCT is nolva for 6 weeks (40mg/40mg/40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg), clomid for 3 weeks (100mg/50mg/50mg) and Vitamin E for 4 weeks (1000UI).
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01-11-2006, 10:40 AM #8
if clomid isnt your cup of tea then just use nolva with some trib
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