Good first oral only cycle?

**Rushzilla** · 01-23-2006, 09:28 AM

Hi all.

Are there any good ORAL only cyles that could meet my goals for a 1st cycle? ... 8 wks ? , 10wks? , 12wks?

GOALS:

10 -15 lbs of keepable muscle ( don't want a huge, quick WOW gain)
Low water retention
minimum loss of gains
of course minimum sides

I'll probably use proviron & nolva throughout the cycle , and follow with a good PCT.

P.s How much of the gain could I keep?
Thanks RUSH

**goalseeker** · 01-23-2006, 09:33 AM

you should be running test for your first cycle..
why do you only want to run an oral? just curious...

**j martini** · 01-23-2006, 09:34 AM

No, not IMO. the only oral only cycle i would recommend would be Anavar , but thats not likely to put 10-15 pounds of muscle on you. Bottom line is not ready to inject not ready to cycle.

**Myka** · 01-23-2006, 09:35 AM

you could research tbol and see what you think...

**Cdub** · 01-23-2006, 09:36 AM

tbol, is all i ever use and maybe dbol . I get good gains and keep majority of them also.

**goalseeker** · 01-23-2006, 09:40 AM

Drol is a great gainer.....

**KDRLINUS** · 01-23-2006, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cdub

tbol, is all i ever use and maybe dbol. I get good gains and keep majority of them also.

i agree with the above statements... TBol would be the way to go... not to much bloat, and i can feel it kick in, in like 2-3 days. def makes me rock hard and strentgh gains are grr8..... might wanna consider using it in conjunction with Test E 500mg per wk. if you wanna do a 10wk cycle

personally i wouldnt push the TBol for 8-10 weeks... i wouldnt go much past 6 and that would be a max for me... ppl will tell u its easier on the liver, but who knows. If im not mistaken its still a 17aa....

IMO the jury is still out on its toxicity, however i think in the short term your golden. justs my .02$

**crash187ct** · 01-23-2006, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by j martini

No, not IMO. the only oral only cycle i would recommend would be Anavar, but thats not likely to put 10-15 pounds of muscle on you. Bottom line is not ready to inject not ready to cycle.

word, i've read nothing but decent reports on anavar ...also read its a lil more expensive.

**DwinsChamps** · 01-23-2006, 01:41 PM

Give this a read....

Tbol/Var Cycle Diary - First Cycle

**magic32** · 01-23-2006, 01:47 PM

You're describing Tbol. It's less expensive than Var and will provide more muscle.

Var is not really for muscle (though you gain a little), it's primarily for strength, density, fat loss and vascularity.

M.