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    Pro/Famouse Ectomorph Bodybuilders

    Is it possible to be an elite bodybuilder if you are a natural ectomorph...?
    The only one i know ov is frank zane, is there any others ? Is/Was Lee Priest a natural ecto ?

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    Good question.

    I'd guess its possible, yet hard, as the genetics arnt perfect.

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    flex wheeler,darrem charles,francis benfatto,brian buchanan,craig licker,
    myself ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (extreme ectomorph) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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    Just out of interest...How do you kno these were ectos and how can you tell from there pics now with huge amounts of muscle...

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    Look at there bone structure and size of their wrists/ankles/knees.

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    Flex Wheeler was an ectomorph bigtime.

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    Chatted with him at the arnold last weekend, very nice guy.

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    I actually think that someone mixed with ecto and meso has a better chance of becoming pro. Coleman, Arnold, Flex all dont have that big of clavicles which is a sign of an ectomorph. They have just built huge amounts of mass on their frame which makes it look more impressive. Now all those guys have the ability to put mass on like a mesomorph but i dont think they really have the frame of a true mesomorph. Just look at arnold nowdays his shoulders are narrow.

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    When you say clavicals do you mean wrists and ankles...am i right in thinking a tell tale sign of people who are ectos is skinny fingers and small wrists ?

    I would say im a complete ecto, but i have really wide shoulders and the first thing that blew up when i began using AAS was my shoulders

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Look at there bone structure and size of their wrists/ankles/knees.

    correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
    When you say clavicals do you mean wrists and ankles...am i right in thinking a tell tale sign of people who are ectos is skinny fingers and small wrists ?

    I would say im a complete ecto, but i have really wide shoulders and the first thing that blew up when i began using AAS was my shoulders
    i am an ectomorph,wrist 6 inches,ankles 7.8 inches,waist 31 inches (without chemicals,dnp ,ephedrine,t3) and have very big delts, almost pro level,see the wrist or the ankles of flex wheeler,ectomorphs cant go over 220-240 lbs.

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    Flex got up to 300 lbs several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    i am an ectomorph,wrist 6 inches,ankles 7.8 inches,waist 31 inches (without chemicals,dnp,ephedrine,t3) and have very big delts, almost pro level,see the wrist or the ankles of flex wheeler,ectomorphs cant go over 220-240 lbs.

    6 inch wrist wow I didnt think that was possible for an adult. I wouldnt say that they cant go over a certain weight since you know height is a big factor....Do you have broad clavicles or Just large Delts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    i am an ectomorph,wrist 6 inches,ankles 7.8 inches,waist 31 inches (without chemicals,dnp,ephedrine,t3) and have very big delts, almost pro level,see the wrist or the ankles of flex wheeler,ectomorphs cant go over 220-240 lbs.
    Are you serious? That seems impossible to have 6inch wrists, your hands would break off lol

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    6 inchers eh? Wow those are very small, I have very small wrists as well but mine are 7.5. Small wrists make your forearms look great tho.

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    My wrists are 6.5", FWIW... and I'm 27.

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    my waist is 29/30 i dont know what width my shoulders are iv never measured by my small waist only helps in making them look huge...

    So if an ecto can pack on solid mucle there somatotype can work to there advanatage...Making them appear bigger and not holding as much bodyfat...

    oswaldosalcedo - do you look pritty cut allyear round (well to some extent) or find it hard to put on fat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boricua Pump
    Flex got up to 300 lbs several times.

    off season maybe,not contest weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
    my waist is 29/30 i dont know what width my shoulders are iv never measured by my small waist only helps in making them look huge...

    So if an ecto can pack on solid mucle there somatotype can work to there advanatage...Making them appear bigger and not holding as much bodyfat...

    oswaldosalcedo - do you look pritty cut allyear round (well to some extent) or find it hard to put on fat...
    yeah all time cut,like a muscled corpse .lol.......,very difficult to put fat and only intrabs,when i am off season ha ha ha! i look like a big-bellied iguana ,i think that i am an extreme ectomorph i began bodybuilding with 135 lbs.
    but i cant go over 200 lb. (scarcely, i go over) i have to try 2-3 gr of test,and 1 gr of tren plus 1 gr of nandro weekly god! and my little waist it will explode .lol..........people are impressed when i am at near 200 lb but on diet, my cheeks disapear,this is a f ucking calvary,all my money is for food,chemicals,i have no car .lol...........
    i am thinking take estrogen,or become overdeveloped fitness guy.




    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Are you serious? That seems impossible to have 6inch wrists, your hands would break off lol...

    almost! ....lol.............it looks like a dog's paw ha ha ha ha ha
    arghhhhhhhhhhhhh
    ha ha ha ha i compete with womans,the one who has them smaller ha ha ha ha




    Quote Originally Posted by pearljam
    6 inch wrist wow I didnt think that was possible for an adult. I wouldnt say that they cant go over a certain weight since you know height is a big factor....Do you have broad clavicles or Just large Delts?...........
    i have very big delts (like pro level),i think bigger than any in my country,are impressive,when i train them,because i don train them,squash all the symmetry and proportions.but..........but.........my calves f uckkkkk
    i have to put a lot of oil and anyway to look so so,for a mr. nowhere!
    the more ugly in my country .lol

    ........................
    inches, wide clavicles?
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    i dont know what to make of all this. I have 7.5" wrists, thick ankles (dont know the measurement), 34" (waist about 29" when im in shape), massive shoulders, I wear a 48 short suit jacket. I am 5'7" and my shoulders look enormous on me. I have bigger shoulders than anyone i know up to 6'3". I think im just really diproportioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    i dont know what to make of all this. I have 7.5" wrists, thick ankles (dont know the measurement), 34" (waist about 29" when im in shape), massive shoulders, I wear a 48 short suit jacket. I am 5'7" and my shoulders look enormous on me. I have bigger shoulders than anyone i know up to 6'3". I think im just really diproportioned.
    i am 5'9''.
    waist have to be measured over the navel.
    i think that you are endo.
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    dextor jackson he said he never does cardio so he might qualify.

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    im a mega ecto morth . i like my small 7 inch wrists and fragile girl hands . just shows my hard work in the gym when i talk to a girl and she see my hands are just as small as hers but my arms are swole once she looks past my elbow.
    do you find ectomorths have a harder time doing a good front double bicep pose because the ribs arent wide enough ? well thats me

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    i think when i complete ecto does put some decent mass on it can look more impressive than any other somatotype due to the small clavicals and tiny waist...if you a 29/30 waist, like my self but have a huge back (which i DONT) or huge shoulders (which i DO) it makes both back and shoulders look much wider compared to the waist...and gives an overall bigger/more impressive V taper...

    Does anyone else agree ?

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    Yes

    I totally agree with you like i said before i dont think true mesos can win major competitions. With a smaller frame you have to pack on more mass to look like the other guys. With the small bones the muscles look more impressive anyway, and almost every ecto i talk to says that they have big delts (maybe because they are compensating for width) but it just seems the delts respond better if you have small clavicles. Look at the size of dilletts delts enormous. Arnold doesnt have broad clavicles either, neither does coleman they just have huge backs and huge delts.

    btw im inbetween with like 8.25 inch wrists and an absolutely tiny waist. And yes delts are prob my best bodypart. Im also 6'4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
    i think when i complete ecto does put some decent mass on it can look more impressive than any other somatotype due to the small clavicals and tiny waist...if you a 29/30 waist, like my self but have a huge back (which i DONT) or huge shoulders (which i DO) it makes both back and shoulders look much wider compared to the waist...and gives an overall bigger/more impressive V taper...

    Does anyone else agree ?
    agree !
    for me around 65 lbs.
    135 to 200 lbs
    i like 20 more but............
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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    agree !
    for me around 65 lbs.
    135 to 200 lbs
    i like 20 more but............

    You can get to your target,you need to look into new drugs
    Got this for you....

    From a British underground magazine.

    INTERLEUKIN -15 (IL-15)
    This is one of the newer drugs appearing on the bodybuilding scene that I would like to comment only briefly on. The human body produces several growth factors that are mediators and intermediates. In short this means they translate or decrease/increase the effect of hormones and other growth factors.

    A study published in the Journal of Endocrinology in 1995 showed IL-15 doubled the rate of hypertrophy in skeletal muscle tissue. Interesting? Well the same study showed that stacking IL-15 with IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor-1; the stuff GH is converted into by the liver and other sites) increased muscular hypertrophy (excessive development/growth) by 500%. How is that for mediation? I have known only a few athletes whom have utilized this stack, and to be honest, I have always believed freaks can be created even from those with below average genetics anyway. Yes, the results were amazing. The down side of IL-15 use is that lack of research. Some have speculated that IL-15 can trigger cancer cell growth. However, available research has not shown a connection between IL-15 and organ growth as of yet. I will not, at this point, explain reported cycles or use. There is not enough research as of yet concerning possible negative side effects. However as more research becomes available, you can bet I will be happy to share the reported results.

    *A note of serious interest. There is also an Interleukin-6 . DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT! It is used by AIDS patients as an immunocytochemical. This means it modulates an immune reaction to infection. It creates an inflammatory reaction and very high cortisol levels while suppressing IGF-1 and Androgen levels. So do not chase AIDS victims around asking for some. They have enough problems to deal with.


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    Body Types - Which One are You? The Ectomorph, the Mesomorph, the Endomorph, or a Combination? A good explanation for those who need to find out....

    ''We have known for quite some time now in bodybuilding that different body types respond differently to both training and nutrition. As a result, it is incredibly important to be aware of what your body type is so that you can design a training and workout program accordingly. In this article, the history of body types and some interesting pieces of information to help you identify them will be mentioned.

    William Sheldon

    William Sheldon (1898-1977) was an American psychologist who spent his life observing all the variety of human bodies. He taught at several universities and spent his career doing valuable research. As a child he was an avid observer of animals and birds, and as he grew up, this hobby turned into a strong ability to observe the human body.

    The basics of body types are listed below:

    The ECTOMORPH
    Definitive "Hard Gainer"
    Delicate Built Body
    Flat Chest
    Fragile
    Lean
    Lightly Muscled
    Small Shouldered
    Takes Longer to Gain Muscle
    Thin


    The extreme ectomorph physique is a fragile and delicate one. The bones are light, joints are small and muscles are slight. The limbs are relatively long in proportion and the shoulders droop. The ectomorph is a linear physique. Straight up and straight down, and may appear longer than he or she really is, due to the length of limbs coupled with lack of muscle mass developed on those limbs. The ectomorph is not naturally powerful and will have to work hard for every ounce of muscle and every bit of strength he or she can gain.

    Other Ectomorph Traits

    The extreme ectomorph may have long fingers, toes and neck are long. A pencil neck you could say. The features of the face are sharp, and the shape of the face is triangular. The lower jaw is somewhat receding. The skin tends to burn easily. Extreme ectomorphs may suffer from extremes of temperature. Due to the great body area in relation to muscle mass, the ectomorph may suffer from great heat, and due to low body fat, the ectomorph may suffer from great cold. The hair is fine and grows quickly and is sometimes difficult to keep in place.

    Famous Ectomorphs

    Lisa Kudrow, Kate Moss, Brad Pitt, Seth Green, Edward Norton.

    The MESOMORPH
    Athletic
    Hard Body
    Hourglass Shaped (Female)
    Rectangular Shaped (Male)
    Mature Muscle Mass
    Muscular Body
    Excellent Posture
    Gains Muscle Easily
    Gains Fat More Easily Than Ectomorphs
    Thick Skin


    The Mesomorph Body

    The mesomorph has well-defined muscles and large bones. The torso tapers to a relatively narrow and low waist. The bones and muscles of the head are prominent. Features of the face are clearly defined, such as cheek bones and a square, heavy jaw. The face is long and broad, and is cubicle in shape. Arms and legs are developed and even the digits of the hand are muscled.

    Other Traits of the Mesomorph

    The skin of the mesomorph is thick and the mesomorph tans well. The hair is heavy in texture.

    Famous Mesomorphs

    Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, the majority of Mr. Universe winners.

    Endomorph


    Soft Body
    Underdeveloped Muscles
    Round Physique
    Weight Loss is Difficult
    Gains Muscle Easily Like the Mesomorph.


    The ENDOMORPH

    The body of the extreme endomorph is round and soft. The physique presents the illusion that much of the mass has been concentrated in the abdominal area. This may or may not be true. The arms and legs of the extreme endomorph are short in length and taper. This may give the appearance of stalkiness. The hands and feet of the endomorph are comparatively small, and the upper arms and thighs are often more developed than the lower parts of the arms or legs. The body has a high waist.

    Other Traits of the Endomoprh

    The skin is soft and smooth, and the hair is fine. The head of the endomorph is spherical. The head is large and the face broad.

    Famous Endomorphs

    John Goodman, Roseanne, Jack Black.

    Combinations of Body Types

    Very often, people cannot be easily classed as one of the three main body types. Although there are some people who are purely ectomorphs, endomorphs, or mesomorphs with little or no characteristics of the other body types, very frequently, people fall into mixed categories, such as ecto mesomorphs, or endo mesomorphs, where largely, they are like the mesomoph, but with traits of the ectomorph (such as small joints or a trim waist), or traits of the endomorph (such as a tendency to gain fat easily).''


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    .....well ecto-meso (but 90%-10%),i have wide shoulders.



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    You can get to your target,you need to look into new drugs
    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    Got this for you....

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    INTERLEUKIN -15 (IL-15)....

    ......

    goss, if i can buy it to (ilk 15) well............... $3500 a mg..............i do it!
    but first 2 gr e test,1 gr nadro (weekly), to see.


    PD: goss,gh it does not turn in igf ,gh stimulates it production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Are you serious? That seems impossible to have 6inch wrists, your hands would break off lol
    I'd be more worried about the 7 1/2 " ankles....Jesus my wrists are small, but theyre bigger than that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    flex wheeler,darrem charles,francis benfatto,brian buchanan,craig licker,
    myself ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (extreme ectomorph) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    those guys you mentioned have some of the best muscle/waist ratio, so I would think they would make the better bb'ers, especially with the new rules adopted by the Mr. O comp.

    Melvin Anthony is also a good example.

    BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastard Samurai
    those guys you mentioned have some of the best muscle/waist ratio, so I would think they would make the better bb'ers, especially with the new rules adopted by the Mr. O comp.

    Melvin Anthony is also a good example.

    BS

    i agree.

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    what was your last cycle? What gains did you get?


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    Take som salt on this though..
    An ectomorph that uses roids will either way look like an meso, so now the deal is more - how do the body react to roids - , but hey, this is all studies, it`s not like you can catagorize all human bodies into just 3 groups

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    Heres a thought...Do peoples responses to AAS have anything to do with somatotype...?

    Measo's are naturally big and strong - so you could imagine they grow more and responsd to AAS much more than ectos...on the other hand you could say that because they are allready big and strong the effects of roids are not as profound as ecto's who are naturally weaker...thus when they introduce muscle and strength building compounds into there body, they grow much more in comparison to measo's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
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    what was your last cycle? What gains did you get?


    goose..
    pathetic............. just 1 gr of e test (weekly).


    Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
    Heres a thought...Do peoples responses to AAS have anything to do with somatotype...?

    Measo's are naturally big and strong - so you could imagine they grow more and responsd to AAS much more than ectos...on the other hand you could say that because they are allready big and strong the effects of roids are not as profound as ecto's who are naturally weaker...thus when they introduce muscle and strength building compounds into there body, they grow much more in comparison to measo's...
    i think so,methandrostenolne (dianabol ) on me,nothing.
    nandro (deca ) wowwwwwwwww.
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    i think frank zane was a pure ectomorph while wheeler was more of a mesomorph with the ectomorph bodyfat level, basically could easily put on muscle like a mesomorph but had ectomorph metabolism that kept his fat levels very low. i remember seeing a picture a while ago either on here or in a magazine of flex wheeler when he was about 18 or 19 and he was about 200 ripped and winning first place in a bodybuilding comp. he may have had some of the traits of an ecto but anybody thats a true ectomorph is not gonna be winning bodybuilding competition in their teens....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDfromGC
    i think frank zane was a pure ectomorph while wheeler was more of a mesomorph with the ectomorph bodyfat level, basically could easily put on muscle like a mesomorph but had ectomorph metabolism that kept his fat levels very low. i remember seeing a picture a while ago either on here or in a magazine of flex wheeler when he was about 18 or 19 and he was about 200 ripped and winning first place in a bodybuilding comp. he may have had some of the traits of an ecto but anybody thats a true ectomorph is not gonna be winning bodybuilding competition in their teens....
    i think that wheeler was more of a ectomorph with some mesomorph traits.
    he have wrist,waist and ankles very tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    i think that wheeler was more of a ectomorph with some mesomorph traits.
    he have wrist,waist and ankles very tiny.
    i agree his bone structure was more of an ectomorph bone structure but his capability to gain muscle doesnt fit that category

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