smoking herbal suplements while on cycle???

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:21 AM

im the not lazy type, and i have also heard if u can get over the lazyness that if u smoke b4 u lift it depletes some lactic acid. but i never do b4 i work out

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by build4life

im the not lazy type, and i have also heard if u can get over the lazyness that if u smoke b4 u lift it depletes some lactic acid. but i never do b4 i work out

The best training days I have are when I do this, dont do it so much now but theres nothing better than puffin', putting on your head phones, and working out. Gets me in the zone.

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 02:26 AM

I dont remember where I read it, or heard it, or even if its true but i heard that it helps supply oxygen to your muscle while working out. Arnold used to smoke before he trained quite often. Theres a good example of it doesnt negatively effect muscle growth.

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 02:26 AM

Well there you have it!

Whatever it takes!! That`s my opinion

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:27 AM

i like u ur my kinda dude

**DBflash21** · 03-10-2006, 02:29 AM

I don't buy any of this, but whatever.

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:31 AM

its all made up just to give us a reason to smoke every now and then. its like pumping urself up for a set. but im sure some of it is true. i had no idea this thread would go on this long

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by DBflash21

I don't buy any of this, but whatever.

buy any of what?! Weather it works or not?!

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:31 AM

and it makes u feel good which in turn lowers cortison levels so that ur muscles dont go to waste

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:32 AM

he doesnt buy smoke i think thats what he ment

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by Testsubject

I dont remember where I read it, or heard it, or even if its true but i heard that it helps supply oxygen to your muscle while working out. Arnold used to smoke before he trained quite often. Theres a good example of it if not negatively effecting muscle growth.

This is true, as i wrote before the THC opens your blood vessels, so more oskygen and nutrition get`s to your muscles! The nikotin has the opposite effect, but THC is stronger! (Make it a heavy bomb then=)

Arnold smokes in pumping iron after he won, and he has admitted that he smoked during his building days, the reason is above (blood vessels), and that you relax more, and it`s when you relax that you grow. More relax = more muscle-growth!

(If my spelling is real bad, you`ll have to excuse me. From scandinavia..)

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 02:34 AM

Think he ment he didn`t belive it, but it`s true

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:35 AM

ok so the majority is just screw it and go for it every now and then?

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by ivrig

This is true, as i wrote before the THC opens your blood vessels, so more oskygen and nutrition get`s to your muscles! The nikotin has the opposite effect, but THC is stronger! (Make it a heavy bomb then=)

Arnold smokes in pumping iron after he won, and he has admitted that he smoked during his building days, the reason is above (blood vessels), and that you relax more, and it`s when you relax that you grow. More relax = more muscle-growth!

(If my spelling is real bad, you`ll have to excuse me. From scandinavia..)

Man, Ive heard rumors of Arnold drink wiskey 'n shit before training, and he drank lots of beer, now I dont really condone drinking but you get my point. As long as you dont let any of this shit run your life you wont have a problem. And yeah, stay away from nicotine, that shits no good.

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 02:39 AM

Read former posts, enough info said. I`m not lying, but the fact is that you have to find what works for you! Everybody reacts a little different to all substances, some react very different.

Smoke as long as it doesn`t get in the way of your training!

That`s BS about the drinking, every bodybuilder needs to take care of his liver especially!!! They don`t take the amount of drugs (and the heaviest drugs) wich supress the liver alot, then go out and drink! That will END you liver!!

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:40 AM

dont smoke cigs so im ok in that catagory. and never drink while on cycle

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by build4life

dont smoke cigs so im ok in that catagory. and never drink while on cycle

Same here!

Atta`boy =)

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by ivrig

Read former posts, enough info said. I`m not lying, but the fact is that you have to find what works for you! Everybody reacts a little different to all substances, some react very different.

Smoke as long as it doesn`t get in the way of your training!

That`s BS about the drinking, every bodybuilder needs to take care of his liver especially!!! They don`t take the amount of drugs (and the heaviest drugs) wich supress the liver alot, then go out and drink! That will END you liver!!

I agree with you on the drinking, i believe that it has no place in a bodybuilders life, it doesnt have one benifit, its empty calories that end up making you fat.

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:44 AM

i thank u

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:45 AM

i drink maybe 3 times a year and its never on cycle. my bday, saint pattys day, and when i pick up a hot chick and she wants to grab a drink

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 02:49 AM

Exact same thing here =)

I get sick for days when i drink, always have. So I have always been a smoker instead. And that`s a blessing if you take your building seriously!!

Beer is bad, booze or whiskey etc is plain fvcking stupid!
NO alkohol is good, but if you have to drink, a little red wine is OK, because it has good effect on the kolesterol

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 02:56 AM

got to love the wine. but would rather smoke ne day of the week. but for some reason its looked down appon and drinking is sooo cool. lets see i want to drink alot and puke all day long. that sounds like fun. or i can smoke and b chill and push myself to eat another meal to get a lil extra protien in my diet

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 03:00 AM

Yeah, well with time they will see..
New studies show that alkohol in high doses makes you 4 times as agressive as on speed! I know, tried both! But no one ever get`s violent when high, and everyone who has been high knows this is true!
Yeah I`d rather smoke any day over a drink too, but drinking is more social. All though here in Norway it is quite accepted in the cities, but still illegal.

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 03:15 AM

Up here in Can. no one even looks twice if you smokin a joint, your more strange if you dotn smoke, lol, go figure. You smokers wanna smoke some of the killer, take a trip up to BC, theres nuthin' out there thats better.

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 03:16 AM

i belive it. wont argue with u there

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 03:19 AM

Well then Canada is on my to-go list =)
Where is BC?
The best stuff is ALWAYS grown where you buy it. Cause it is an advantage that it is fresh and not exposed to different temperatures. But alot of crap out there, sometimes you might as well hit yourself in the head with a bottle..

Go to amsterdam man, the "smoke-bars" have everything your heart desires, it`s legal to smoke there. Does not get any better

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 03:21 AM

we have alot of intelegent smoking and growing bodybuilders here

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by ivrig

Well then Canada is on my to-go list =)
Where is BC?
The best stuff is ALWAYS grown where you buy it. Cause it is an advantage that it is fresh and not exposed to different temperatures. But alot of crap out there, sometimes you might as well hit yourself in the head with a bottle..

Go to amsterdam man, the "smoke-bars" have everything your heart desires, it`s legal to smoke there. Does not get any better

Trust me bro! BC bud is the best there is, hands down bro, this shit goes around the world for big money.

**Testsubject** · 03-10-2006, 03:26 AM

Bed time for me, peace.

and i think we figured out that it is ok to smoke while you are on cycle.

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 03:28 AM

OK, I will remember the recommendation =)

Yes we have!

Take care!

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 03:36 AM

hey ivrig why cant u get pm's???

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 03:38 AM

I don`t know. I`m a new user, so maybe it`s because i haven`t written enough posts.

[email protected]

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 03:48 AM

no u have u just have to alow it. go to ur user cp and edit it to recive pm.

**build4life** · 03-10-2006, 03:53 AM

go to the user cp and then go to options. go down and it should say allow privat messages just click yes

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 04:00 AM

Don`t see that option. But was just told that you need 25 posts do be able to PM, and i don`t have that i`m quite sure

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 04:01 AM

no shait, i do, but still can`t see it..

**Geodogg** · 03-10-2006, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by ToTheBuckeT21

I hate how pot heads always get all the chicks!.. lol

i dissagree with that bro. from my experience, pot defenetly doesn't help anyone get more ass. it's actually the oposite. trust me.

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 04:13 AM

This can`t even be discussed!

It all depends on wich kind of chick, and wich kind of guy!
But in 90 % of the cases, it is not regarded as positive that you smoke jazz-tobacco..

**Big Bapper** · 03-10-2006, 07:13 AM

What about pre competition, The last week before a bodybuilding show when you are trying to suppress estrogen to help dry out ??

I think it would be ok on a cycle off season if you enjoy doing it because your natty test is suppresed anyway..........Plus with the use of anti es and all the other goddies we use to keep our estrogen down, I cant see how it would do any harm in moderation. But off cycle I would advice staying away good from old Mary Jane.

**ivrig** · 03-10-2006, 07:15 AM

Well, my personal opinion is that it is insignificant amounts!
Do not believe it would do anything at all

At least not noticed or heard of anything of it!