why t-bol over d-bol

[lifthard2005]

guys - help me understand why alot of you prefer turnibol over dianabol in a mass stack.

for turnibol, on a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very
low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53.

but for dianabol, the androgenic effect is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90

so why tbol over dbol when dbol is a stronger agent in both catagories?

[MAXIMA5]

I would guess sides

[speedtraining]

guys - help me understand why alot of you prefer turnibol over dianabol in a mass stack.

for turnibol, on a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very
low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53.

but for dianabol, the androgenic effect is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90

so why tbol over dbol when dbol is a stronger agent in both catagories?

I would prefer dbol , or if you want to go big time drol.

[taiboxa]

tbol seems too weak to me.. i like harder stronger stuff

[heavyrotation92]

tbol seems too weak to me.. i like harder stronger stuff

agreed, and I have never had that many bad sides from the D

i just make sure not to drink and get plenty of milk thistle

[magic32]

I don't think your beginning premise is correct. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of members who'd prefer Tbol in a "MASS STACK".

M.

[marcus300]

between the 2 i prefer dbol , ive never like tbol, it doesnt agree with me at all.

Marcus

[Booz]

between the 2 i prefer dbol , ive never like tbol, it doesnt agree with me at all.

Marcus

Must second this..........my stomache does not like t-bol watsoever...........

[james21]

I never had a problem with tbol and my stomach. I LOVED the stuff the first time i ran it, but you kinda gotta run it more than 4 weeks. But the results just fell off the second go round..... dbol is very consistant and strong .... breakfast of champions

[Logan13]

guys - help me understand why alot of you prefer turnibol over dianabol in a mass stack.

for turnibol, on a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very
low - only 6 - and the anabolic effect is 53.

but for dianabol, the androgenic effect is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90

so why tbol over dbol when dbol is a stronger agent in both catagories?

define mass: if you think of holding water as gaining mass, then dbol is for you. Tbol is the new kid on the block as it has not been around for some time, hence many are taking a liking to it as such. Tbol sides are abdominal pain, dbol sides are much longer to list. It is just a personal choice.

[taiboxa]

define mass: if you think of holding water as gaining mass, then dbol is for you. Tbol is the new kid on the block as it has not been around for some time, hence many are taking a liking to it as such. Tbol sides are abdominal pain, dbol sides are much longer to list. It is just a personal choice.

the germans used tbol back in the age old olympics via hitler!

[spywizard]

I have run both, i prefer tbol over dbol , who wants to have a round face??

[Liftnainez]

i have never run dbol but i did use tbol.. w/ tbol i held no water, got stronger and even a bit more vascular.. the pumps were insane as well.. from what i have seen and read about dbol is that its mostly water weight ( for the most part) I rather attain dry lean KEEPABLE gains rather than being heavier and stronger for a month.. to each his own..

[ZIA1]

I'm on 60mg/day right now. By day 2 I had a couple of headaches but they went away by the next day. No stomach problems, no headaches, not holding water, and I take it on an empty stomach. Good stuff

[Liftnainez]

I have run both, i prefer tbol over dbol, who wants to have a round face??

exactly..

[LB 35]

What kind of strength gains do you get on tbol?? Is it comparable to var in that department??

[doublefister]

It all depends on what you are looking for. Dbol will give you a lot of water retention and hard to maintain gains when the Tbol will be all lean mass with little water retention.

I just finished a 6 weeker of Tbol and I gain 15lbs. I ate 4-5000 calories a day and I am now in pct. I am trying to eat cleaner and less carbs during my pct.

If you are looking for lean mass with little or no water retention that you will lose anyways go with Tbol. If you are looking for strength go with anavar . I plan on doing a var/tbol cycle next. Probably doing 30/40 or 40/40mg a day.

[Swifto]

Only used Tbol and love it. Never used Dbol but will soon. I like the vascularity, strength gains, mass gains and good well being Tbol gives me.

[Testostack]

define mass: if you think of holding water as gaining mass, then dbol is for you. Tbol is the new kid on the block as it has not been around for some time, hence many are taking a liking to it as such. Tbol sides are abdominal pain, dbol sides are much longer to list. It is just a personal choice.

700% AGREED. If mass means water gains, and 20% held after PCT, then i'll go for the stomach issue w/ no doubt

[notanormalgent]

I've used Dbol and barely got any bloat while running .5mg of Arimidex a day. I just started Tbol two days ago, so far I think it's the cause of my messed up sleep, but it's too soon to tell anything.

[Testostack]

You know what they say.....we're all diff. so we'll never react the same way..... i got a friend who takes 40 mg of Dbol all year round and never had bloat, liver trouble........i know it's weird but somewhat 100% real.

[MrKadugen]

Yeah, I like dBol ; I'm gonna be kickstarting my next cycle with it. And if you use something like arimidex or letro, it should keep water retention to a minimum...

[taiboxa]

i have ran dbol up to 110mg ED and i have never had water retention
all u need is a lil dex and all is well

[Logan13]

the germans used tbol back in the age old olympics via hitler!

yes, but it has not been available for decades since.

[Logan13]

i have ran dbol up to 110mg ED and i have never had water retention
all u need is a lil dex and all is well

nah, I'll bet that your dbol was fake.

[Testostack]

nah, I'll bet that your dbol was fake.

Some many DbolS

[Liftnainez]

110 mgs??

[taiboxa]

Some many Dbol S

NO it was just one big dbol i ate it like a water mellon


and yes 110mg

it was 55mg Dosing

[Testostack]

NO it was just one big dbol i ate it like a water mellon


and yes 110mg

it was 55mg Dosing

Never heard of a 55 mg dose......

[Logan13]

Never heard of a 55 mg dose......

tai just likes to be different. No one else would take the dbol rectally either, oh tai.

[Testostack]

tai just likes to be different. No one else would take the dbol rectally either, oh tai.

.....Wolverine spoke........LMAO

[Stackertoo]

Only used Tbol and love it. Never used Dbol but will soon. I like the vascularity, strength gains, mass gains and good well being Tbol gives me.

You love the instant mass boost d-bol gives you.
Last cycle, I felt like I was shot out of a cannon. Gains were crazy fast on the jump start. I realize most was water, but I think you keep more than with most other orals. You just lose more too, because you get alot of the good and bad(H2O) gains.

[Testostack]

You love the instant mass boost d-bol gives you.
Last cycle, I felt like I was shot out of a cannon. Gains were crazy fast on the jump start. I realize most was water, but I think you keep more than with most other orals. You just lose more too, because you get alot of the good and bad(H2O) gains.

Bottom line.......i think that H²O gains are helpful for strength, but in term of Quality gains, it's worthless since you drop'em off just after cycle......so i rather like to gain less but get hard/vascular and keep the whole shit (or almost) jmo