**Dianaviron: The ULTIMATE Anabolic Bridge**

[-The Ross-]

KEEP 100% OF YOUR GAINS!

Do NOT discontinue anabolic steroids ABRUPTLY!

Post-cycle regimens containing Aromatase Inhibitors and SERM's are simply not enough for the SERIOUS bodybuilder to maintain his muscular gains post-cycle. Once a bodybuilders reaches a certain point of muscular development, the continued use of a mild anabolic becomes justified..

There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between TESTICULAR inhibtion and PITUITARY inhibition!

MAINTAINING PITUITARY FUNCTION is neccessary in order for Testosterone levels to begin increasing. No matter how much Arimidex or Clomid you take, if your PITUITARY is not responsive, neither will be your testicles. Ergo, we must first restore PITUITARY function before we can restore TESICULAR function.

We MUST discontinue all PITUITARY-inhibiting compounds(Testosterone, Nanrolone, Trenbolone) at least 6 weeks before we can even THINK about getting our testosterone levels back up. During this 6 week period AFTER those compounds have been discontinued, we begin administering compounds that are NOT inhibitory to the pituitary(even though they all supress testicular function) such as Oxandrolone, Methandrostenelone, Stanzolol, Methenelone, and Masteron , and Proviron This will allow your body to remain in an anabolic state WHILE YOUR PITUITARY BEGINS TO RECOVER.

Your body MUST remain in an anabolic state while the pituitary begins to recover.

Enter "Dianaviron", the ULTIMATE anabolic bridge.

Dianabol has only a minimal influence on the HPTA, despite being even more anabolic than testosterone. One 10mg dosage will drastically increase testosterone concentrations, and will also significantly reduce CORTISOL, which is utterly important post-cycle.

Proviron will increase FREE test levels, decrease SHBG, decrease ESTROGEN, and it binds well to the A-R providing the muscles with density and hardness. Studies have shown that Proviron can be used with NO EFFECT on the HPTA*

KEEP your gains! By combining low doses of Dianabol with Proviron in a post-cycle environment, one can not only maintain all of their hard-earned gains, but continue to make muscular gains up until their next full cycle--ALL WITHOUT affecting the HPTA!

Dianaviron should be run as follows:

Dianabol: 10-20mgs ED
Proviron: 50mgs ED

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NOT ALL ANDROGENS CAUSE SHUTDOWN*

"Shutdown", is defined by a COMPLETE inhibition of the Pituitary/Testes, resulting in a TOTAL cessation of endogenous androgen production.

SOME androgens will only SUPPRESS endogenous androgen production, resulting in a DECREASED testosterone level, but not a complete shutdown. (Tbol, Var, Wistrol, EQ, Dianabol, masteron, proviron, halo, primo)

Very Androgenic /Progestenic/Estrogenic steroids (Tren , Deca , Drol, Test) cause a COMPLETE shutdown of endogenous hormone production.

The distinction between SUPRESSION and SHUTDOWN is utterly important, as steroids that cause LESS supression of endogenous hormones will allow for greater retention of gains upon ending the cycle, and a quicker, easier PCT.
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Horm Metab Res. 1984 Sep;16(9):492-7.Related Articles, Links

Effect of non aromatizable androgens on LHRH and TRH responses in primary testicular failure.

Spitz IM, Margalioth EJ, Yeger Y, Livshin Y, Zylber-Haran E, Shilo S.

We have assessed the gonadotropin, TSH and PRL responses to the non aromatizable androgens, mesterolone and fluoxymestrone, in 27 patients with primary testicular failure. All patients were given a bolus of LHRH (100 micrograms) and TRH (200 micrograms) at zero time. Nine subjects received a further bolus of TRH at 30 mins. The latter were then given mesterolone 150 mg daily for 6 weeks. The remaining subjects received fluoxymesterone 5 mg daily for 4 weeks and 10 mg daily for 2 weeks. On the last day of the androgen administration, the subjects were re-challenged with LHRH and TRH according to the identical protocol. When compared to controls, the patients had normal circulating levels of testosterone , estradiol, PRL and thyroid hormones. However, basal LH, FSH and TSH levels, as well as gonadotropin responses to LHRH and TSH and PRL responses to TRH, were increased. Mesterolone administration produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL. There was, however, a reduction in the integrated and incremental TSH secretion after TRH. Fluoxymesterone administration was accompanied by a reduction in thyroid binding globulin (with associated decreases in T3 and increases in T3 resin uptake). The free T4 index was unaltered, which implies that thyroid function was unchanged. In addition, during fluoxymesterone administration, there was a reduction in testosterone, gonadotropins and LH response to LHRH. Basal TSH did not vary, but there was a reduction in the peak and integrated TSH response to TRH. PRL levels were unaltered during fluoxymesterone treatment.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS


[R]

[SMAN12b]

Low Doses?? What would you consider low doses?? Would like to know more about this.

[-The Ross-]

Dianabol : 10-20mgs ED
Proviron : 50mgs ED


[R]

[*Narkissos*]

Dianabol : 10-20mgs ED
Proviron : 50mgs ED


[R]

You know what's funny?

Ross claims he 'invented' this method... lmao!

Old school Bodybuilders decades back used a low-dose dbol /var... or dbol/proviron bridge at the end of their cycles.

This is old school... and outdated

If y'all want proof: Search Mallet's (a former Vet here) threads.. He uses 10mg dbol IN his PCT.

The method is oldschool.. originating prior to the discovery/use of SERMs/AIs/LH-analogues/FSH-analogues/Specific Peptide Hormones(Slin/IGF) in PCTs.

It is NOT more effective.. i repeat it is NOT more effective.

There was a Thread done on I F L.. by a member.. after reviewing the study which keeps popping up. You know the one i mean.. i old one where dbol was shown to reduce serum test.. but not totally suppress it. Yea that study.

The member did a Dbol bridge followed by bloodwork... Guess what.

No.. i'll let you guess.

Don't be fooled.

~Narkissos

[SPIKE]

Big K I'll let you take care of this. I have to head out to work.................

[BajanBastard]

Big K I'll let you take care of this. I have to head out to work.................

Funny to be finished typing and come out to see this.

[Testostack]

Funny to be finished typing and come out to see this.

Big K.L.G. New Ross' banning sponsor LMAO !

[elite2kr]

Is m1t a total shutdown steriod ?

[BajanBastard]

Sorry Ross we already established the importance of proviron in a PCT protocol, however for maintaining gains in the time period you stated it will not be effective because proviron is not directly anabolic .

Also your theory has one critical flaw IMHO.
The use of 'light' AAS like primo in this case won't matter because once you're shut down you can't recover with any type of AAS in your blood. So they are no special AAS needed to do what you're proposing, just use test prop..................... oh wait............... we do that already.

[-The Ross-]

You failed to understand the distinction between TESTICULAR supression and PITUITARY supression.


[R]

[-The Ross-]

The DIANABOL is the primary anabolic component in the Dianaviron formula.

Although Proviron will also contribute to a harder and denser musculature.

Oh--and GREAT LIBIDO increases!

Dianaviron rocks!


[R]

[BajanBastard]

Dianaviron man were do you come up with these names? Your post has merit, it's just that IMO 'dianaviron' is not needed when the user can run a short acting testosterone .

[-The Ross-]

Dianaviron man were do you come up with these names? Your post has merit, it's just that IMO 'dianaviron' is not needed when the user can run a short acting testosterone.

Because a short-acting testosterone is INHIBITORY--to the PITUITARY and TESTICLES.

Thus, Dianaviron is warranted.

Big K, give it a shot. Nice to see you made VET by the way....


[R]

[BajanBastard]

Because a short-acting testosterone is INHIBITORY--to the PITUITARY and TESTICLES.

Thus, Dianaviron is warranted.

Big K, give it a shot. Nice to see you made VET by the way....


[R]

Thanks. Methandrostenolone is also inhibitory, due to it's conversion to estrogen and it's androgenic nature. The GH/IGF response from D-bol use could help but IMO it's not really warranted.

[SMAN12b]

Dianaviron man were do you come up with these names? Your post has merit, it's just that IMO 'dianaviron' is not needed when the user can run a short acting testosterone.

SO Big, are you saying that if we didn't want to come off, we could successfully continue with a low dose of Test-E??? Just Curious...

[-The Ross-]

SO Big, are you saying that if we didn't want to come off, we could successfully continue with a low dose of Test-E??? Just Curious...

If he is saying that, he is indeed crazy. TEST is INHIBITORY--Dianaviron is NOT.

That is the POINT of this thread.

[R]

[BajanBastard]

SO Big, are you saying that if we didn't want to come off, we could successfully continue with a low dose of Test-E??? Just Curious...

Personally, i don't believe in never ending cycles or bridging between cycles. What i believe Ross is saying is that it's best to use an anabolic short acting AAS like 'dianaviron' to maintain an anabolic environment while the long acting ester and their active metabolites clear to allow maximum PCT efficiency I agree with that 110%.
I just think test prop can do the job just fine, not the other drugs he listed, (except 'dianaviron' that may work but not for 6 weeks) test is best once again in this case.

[-The Ross-]

Methandrostenelone is INHIBITORY to the TESTICLES--NOT the PITUITARY.

I enjoy the discussion.


[R]

[SMAN12b]

Thanks again Big!!

[BajanBastard]

Where did you get the 6 week time frame from? Also what differentiates pituitary and testicular shutdown/suppression?

It's not called the H.P.T.A for nothing

[manofsteel69]

thank god for the vets in this forum, or guys like ross would be making everyone look like lyle alzado for #### sakes

[Liftnainez]

thank god for the vets in this forum, or guys like ross would be making everyone look like lyle alzado for #### sakes

huh? what r u saying?

[manofsteel69]

huh? what r u saying?

I am just saying that thank god there are vets and mods like big and booz who know their #### . That they trump guys like ross or the roos or whatever that moron wants to call himself. The lyle alzado remark was just a hint that constant cycling and never going off cycle the right way will lead to what happened to him, which was shrivel up and die

[kloter1]

can you drink winny mate?

[bmf2]

can you drink winny mate?

Why yes you can.... and a monkey will eat dirt if you make him....



and Ross... lets not do this again...

[Myka]

I heart ross....in the butt

[BEER WHORE]

ROSS I thought you were banned man

[Myka]

is ross staying?

[BEER WHORE]

I vote yes for ross he seems to have some "different" ideas about AAS guys looking back to the 60's they did some strange cycles some times no PCT or some times stay on for a whole year... I heard some football players and boxers would take d-bol for 8-10 weeks @ 50 to 100mgs...so maybe ROSS is on the cutting edge or maybe he is misanthropic brat...the only things is that I have read he scammed bros before.

[almostgone]

...ross has been permanently banned...it should remain that way....

AG

[BEER WHORE]

almostgone nice avvy

[New Juice]

This guy seems like an assclown w/ 5 post (but apparently has been banned before) coming to our site trying to promote some shit which I'm sure in some way will make him some money,

Ban him

[-The Ross-]

My physique speaks for itself--and so does my HEALTH. (At 5''10, 210lbs, 7%BF)

Not trying to sound arrogant, but accomplishments speak volumes.

I invented the Turinabol /Var stack, I invented "Dianavar".

Anything I share in my articles, I have PERSONALLY done myself.

And--Dianaviron works!

So--if you want to keep using OUTDATED PCT regimens with crude SERM's and lose your PRECIOUS muscle--suit yourself.

For those of us who want to keep every POUND, we have Dianaviron.



[R]

[BlInDsIdE]

My physique speaks for itself--and so does my HEALTH. (At 5''10, 210lbs, 7%BF)

Not trying to sound arrogant, but accomplishments speak volumes.

I invented the Turinabol /Var stack, I invented "Dianavar".

Anything I share in my articles, I have PERSONALLY done myself.

And--Dianaviron works!

So--if you want to keep using OUTDATED PCT regimens with crude SERM's and lose your PRECIOUS muscle--suit yourself.

For those of us who want to keep every POUND, we have Dianaviron.



[R]

LETS SEE SOME LEG PICS ROSS.....

[BlInDsIdE]

My physique speaks for itself--and so does my HEALTH. (At 5''10, 210lbs, 7%BF)

Not trying to sound arrogant, but accomplishments speak volumes.

I invented the Turinabol /Var stack, I invented "Dianavar".

[R]

you also invented taking it in the a$$ and the "rimjob"

[Swifto]

My physique speaks for itself--and so does my HEALTH. (At 5''10, 210lbs, 7%BF)

Not trying to sound arrogant, but accomplishments speak volumes.

I invented the Turinabol /Var stack, I invented "Dianavar".

Anything I share in my articles, I have PERSONALLY done myself.

And--Dianaviron works!

So--if you want to keep using OUTDATED PCT regimens with crude SERM's and lose your PRECIOUS muscle--suit yourself.

For those of us who want to keep every POUND, we have Dianaviron.



[R]

I remember you stating you were 217ish pounds at 7% and also claim you have never lost a single lb when cycling and keep ALL your gains.

So.....what happened?

[vitor]

I remember you stating you were 217ish pounds at 7% and also claim you have never lost a single lb when cycling and keep ALL your gains.

So.....what happened?

Good question... But yust to be fair, he looks pretty buff in hes avatar.

[arnold_of_malta]

My physique speaks for itself--and so does my HEALTH. (At 5''10, 210lbs, 7%BF)

Not trying to sound arrogant, but accomplishments speak volumes.

I invented the Turinabol /Var stack, I invented "Dianavar".

Anything I share in my articles, I have PERSONALLY done myself.

And--Dianaviron works!

So--if you want to keep using OUTDATED PCT regimens with crude SERM's and lose your PRECIOUS muscle--suit yourself.

For those of us who want to keep every POUND, we have Dianaviron.



[R]

hi ross i am interessted in what you are saying so let me make it clear to make sure that i am understanding you correctly!

so i finished my 12weeks test e cycle last week i have been 1 week without notthing! so i can start 15mgs d balls take 5mg morning 5 mg noon and 5 mg evening and 25mg proverone morning and 25mgs evening! i am going to start my pct next week so i start the dinaviron think that you invented tommorrow and keep on taking it even while i am on clomite pct????? and i can keep on taking it for the next 6 weeks untill i start my full next cycle???? but by this way will i be safe ross????? have you got proff that it is safe because i am willing to try it and am bord of losing muscel between cycles its depressing to lose muscel mate!!!!!! pls answer me exectly because i am willing to try it ross i read all your treads i see that this one is a good thingbut will my nuteral test start again if i do this system pls inform me as soon as possible mate!!!

[Kale]

hi ross i am interessted in what you are saying so let me make it clear to make sure that i am understanding you correctly!

so i finished my 12weeks test e cycle last week i have been 1 week without notthing! so i can start 15mgs d balls take 5mg morning 5 mg noon and 5 mg evening and 25mg proverone morning and 25mgs evening! i am going to start my pct next week so i start the dinaviron think that you invented tommorrow and keep on taking it even while i am on clomite pct????? and i can keep on taking it for the next 6 weeks untill i start my full next cycle???? but by this way will i be safe ross????? have you got proff that it is safe because i am willing to try it and am bord of losing muscel between cycles its depressing to lose muscel mate!!!!!! pls answer me exectly because i am willing to try it ross i read all your treads i see that this one is a good thingbut will my nuteral test start again if i do this system pls inform me as soon as possible mate!!!

Bro can you read ? If so go back and read what the vets have been saying about all of this. ITS NOT A GOOD IDEA !!!!!!

[SMAN12b]

Bro can you read ? If so go back and read what the vets have been saying about all of this. ITS NOT A GOOD IDEA !!!!!!

I was gonna say something about that KALE, but I was hoping this was just some more BAD sarcasm and that arnold was just pickin on ROSS....at least I really , really HOPE he was