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    Only concern is getting shut down permanently

    I'm 20 years old, looking to start my 4th cycle soon. I plan to compete in strongman events and also bodybuilding... at the national level. So far I've only used test E at 500-700mg and my first two cycles had tren 100mg eod.

    now that i know my goals and what it takes to get there, i know i'll have to run very high doses, perhaps pretty often

    the next cycle or two will be

    1000-1500mg test prop
    25mg dbol in the AM
    possibly tren 150mg eod

    i'll run this for 6 weeks on/6 off (OR cruise at 250-500mg for those 6 weeks)

    now during all my cycles i had next to no testicular shrinkage, and it doesn't take more than 3-4 weeks of pct (nolva and clomid) to feel normal again

    but i DO want to have kids someday, i know that already. i hear that it's very very rare to permanently be shut down from AAS use and even the ones that are, really just take a lot longer to eventually get back to normal. but it's very important that i have some good swimmers in a couple years, but i will also devote most of my life to competing on a national level

    advice please, thanks

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    Wow! That's a pretty large amount of test. I will let one of the other guys take that dose question. As far as the 6 weeks off, I would lay off the test altogether so that your body receptors reset. Also, I would run 25MG Dbol in the am and in the pm as it is more effective spread throughout the day.

    Good Luck!

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    the 25mg dbol would only be for the anti-cortisol properties and some strength gains.. don't want to bloat too much

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    Only thing that shut me down was Deca ..... And I ran my test way higher, but still got shut down.. was about a gram a week....

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    I ran everything under the sun and concieved both of my little girls while on. Each time my wife got pregnant within 1 month of being off the pill.

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