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    Cycle 4 critique please

    I saw something similar before on a previous post. Never did Test E before but body is familiar to everything else. For my PCT I am thinking of using Prov but wasn't sure if it is necessary (This would be my first time using this as well). Will start in Jan but doesn't hurt to start research now. My stats are all on my profile. Any questions or ideas are appriciated. Thanx

    1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
    1-12 Test-e 500mg M/TH
    1-10 Deca 400mg M/TH
    1-13 Nolva 20mg/ED
    5-14 HCG at 250 ius, 3x WK M/W/F

    PCT begins week 14
    wk 14-16 HCG 500ius/ED, M/W/F.
    wk 14-18 Nolva 20mg/ED
    wk 14-19 Proviron 50mg/ED

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    X D-1 All-American Decathlete/Heptathlete
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    7 years serious/intense training
    3 cycles deep (sus, dbol , deca )
    Great diet and training due to 11 years of track and field
    obvious bulk cycle
    goal +250
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    bro what are your goals then we can help yhou better..

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    also thinking of switching dbol for drol....any ideas?

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    anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighandWide
    I saw something similar before on a previous post. Never did Test E before but body is familiar to everything else. For my PCT I am thinking of using Prov but wasn't sure if it is necessary (This would be my first time using this as well). Will start in Jan but doesn't hurt to start research now. My stats are all on my profile. Any questions or ideas are appriciated. Thanx

    1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
    1-12 Test-e 500mg M/TH
    1-10 Deca 400mg M/TH
    1-13 Nolva 20mg/ED
    5-14 HCG at 250 ius, 3x WK M/W/F

    PCT begins week 14
    wk 14-16 HCG 500ius/ED, M/W/F.
    wk 14-18 Nolva 20mg/ED
    wk 14-19 Proviron 50mg/ED
    bro looks ok well depends on what cycle this is for you ... but the HCG is OVERKILL big time Like i have said.. Its a good thing to use when running deca to combat deca sides ... also forget Nolva when running deca ( it will do nothing for deca casued gyno) also I am not a big fan of nolva through out anyway... use a good A'I like adex .25 ED or letro in gyno prone.. as for the Hcg 7-10 days MAX for Pct But can be run mid cycle for 2 weeks 3 X a week 2 250-500iu or if deca sides come on (DECA DCK ) but running Hcg weeks 5-16 IS way to long IMO and like I have said HCG can bring on gyno if used for prolonged periods of time

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    1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
    1-12 Test-e 500mg M/TH
    1-10 Deca 400mg M/TH
    1-12 Arimi .5mg ED

    PCT
    week 1 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 2 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 3 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 4 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 5 - clomid 50mg/nolva 10mg/arimi .25mg

    Does this PCT look better for this cycle....I usually run a nolva/clomid but occasionally see some bad sides from the clomid...I was just trying to get the clomid out but if this looks better tell me and i'll run it again...If not please give some suggestions

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighandWide
    1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
    1-12 Test-e 500mg M/TH
    1-10 Deca 400mg M/TH
    1-12 Arimi .5mg ED

    PCT
    week 1 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 2 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 3 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 4 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 5 - clomid 50mg/nolva 10mg/arimi .25mg

    Does this PCT look better for this cycle....I usually run a nolva/clomid but occasionally see some bad sides from the clomid...I was just trying to get the clomid out but if this looks better tell me and i'll run it again...If not please give some suggestions

    bro still use the Hcg .... run the hcg mid cycle @ 250-500iu M-W-F for 2 weeks ( great with deca ) than 2-3 weeks after your last injection of test run the hcg 7-10days @ 500iu than run the clomid, nolva, arimi But still Nolva will do very little for help with deca

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    1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
    6-8 HCG 250iu M/W/F
    1-12 Test-e 500mg M/TH
    1-10 Deca 400mg M/TH
    13-14 HCG 250iu M/W/F

    PCT
    week 1 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 2 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 3 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 4 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 5 - clomid 50mg/nolva 10mg/arimi .25mg

    I have nolva already on hand from a past cycle so I figured it wouldn't hurt to run....Do u think taking it out and running clomid and Arimi would be enough...I don't gyno bad and my test does kicks back fairly early based on what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighandWide
    1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
    6-8 HCG 250iu M/W/F
    1-12 Test-e 500mg M/TH
    1-10 Deca 400mg M/TH
    13-14 HCG 250iu M/W/F

    PCT
    week 1 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 2 - clomid 100mg/nolva 20 mg/arimi .5mg
    week 3 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 4 - clomid 50mg/nolva 20mg/arimi .5mg
    week 5 - clomid 50mg/nolva 10mg/arimi .25mg

    I have nolva already on hand from a past cycle so I figured it wouldn't hurt to run....Do u think taking it out and running clomid and Arimi would be enough...I don't gyno bad and my test does kicks back fairly early based on what I hear.

    13-14 HCG 250-500iu for 7days the dosage depends on how you respond as for the nolva thats up to you other wise looks good .. also for me since you are running the Hcg I would drop the clomid to 50mg but if not taking the hcg than 100mg would be fine also the length of weeks just adjust between 4-5 play that by ear when you kick back in and BW will help greatly help to determin this

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    My cycle is close to yours.

    H&W,
    Here is a thread I was working on for a cycle much like yours. There maybe something of value in there.....

    Cycle #2, deca & test, needs pct tweak for HCG

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