HCG & Nolva

**MRRoboto** · 10-30-2006, 08:54 PM

'Always include Nolva with your HCG , they work together well.'
I found this quote in the steroid profiles forum. How true is it? What if your already using Aromsin, would all three be a bad idea?(TestC and DBol with Aromisin and HCG during cycle and as PCT)

**Swifto** · 10-31-2006, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by MRRoboto

'Always include Nolva with your HCG , they work together well.'
I found this quote in the steroid profiles forum. How true is it? What if your already using Aromsin, would all three be a bad idea?(TestC and DBol with Aromisin and HCG during cycle and as PCT)

Nolva has ben claimed to prevent the suppression of some ganadotropins HCG's use may bring. They do work well together IMHO. I use both along with Proviron for PCT and have never recovered better.

**MRRoboto** · 10-31-2006, 02:38 PM

Thanks Swifto I'm gonna look into Proviron now.

**MRRoboto** · 10-31-2006, 02:55 PM

Okay, so how about I drop the aromisin at the end of my cycle and use Proviron , Nolva and HCG in my PCT?
So far, my first cycle is looking like this:
week 1-2: Aromasin (forget the dosage at this time)
week 3-5: Aromasin, DBol and TestC
week 6-7 Aromasin, DBol, TestC, Nolva and HCG
week 8-12: Aromasin,TestC, Nolva and HCG
week 13-14: Nolva and HCG
week 14-18: (PCT) Nolva, HCG and Proviron
Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bro!

**shrpskn** · 10-31-2006, 03:25 PM

Why aromasin only the first two weeks?

**shrpskn** · 10-31-2006, 03:28 PM

Don't forget that HCG is one of them things where too much of a good thing can be a bad thing...IMO, you're overdoing it a bit with the HCG.
12 weeks of HCG use is way too much.

-ShrpSkn

BG · 10-31-2006, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Nolva has ben claimed to prevent the suppression of some ganadotropins HCG's use may bring. They do work well together IMHO. I use both along with Proviron for PCT and have never recovered better.

Swifto recommended this to me, I did it less the proviron and was the fastest recovering pct Ive ran.

**stupidhippo** · 10-31-2006, 03:30 PM

if the dose is small enough I dont think the HCG is a bad idea..

**shrpskn** · 10-31-2006, 03:31 PM

I'd definitely omit HCG from PCT due to it's somewhat aromatizing properties and the fact that you have already ran it too long to begin with.
Swap it out of your PCT for some clomid instead, if you want to make a decent recovery.

-ShrpSkn

**shrpskn** · 10-31-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Swifto recommended this to me, I did it less the proviron and was the fastest recovering pct Ive ran.

Hmmm..I guess this is news to me then. I normally wouldn't run HCG for more than 2-3 weeks at a crack, and more so at the end of a cycle pre-PCT.

-ShrpSkn

BG · 10-31-2006, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

Hmmm..I guess this is news to me then. I normally wouldn't run HCG for more than 2-3 weeks at a crack, and more so at the end of a cycle pre-PCT.

-ShrpSkn

Not during, I recommend for pct. During if only a loooong cycle.For pct I use 1000iu's eod totaling 10000iu's total, doctor recommended.

**shrpskn** · 10-31-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Not during, I recommend for pct. During if only a loooong cycle.For pct I use 1000iu's eod totaling 10000iu's total, doctor recommended.

Ok, gotchya

...to each his own I guess.

-ShrpSkn

**stupidhippo** · 10-31-2006, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Not during, I recommend for pct. During if only a loooong cycle.For pct I use 1000iu's eod totaling 10000iu's total, doctor recommended.

what is his logic for such a high dose? did he explain u y? Im curious..

**Swifto** · 10-31-2006, 04:01 PM

I use it during too. 125-500ius 2 or 3 times weekly to sustain testicular size and function. PCT should start at the beginning of the cycle IMHO. Nothing like planning ahead!

**MRRoboto** · 11-02-2006, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I use it during too. 125-500ius 2 or 3 times weekly to sustain testicular size and function. PCT should start at the beginning of the cycle IMHO. Nothing like planning ahead!

How long do you run it after your last test injection?

**Swifto** · 11-03-2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by MRRoboto

How long do you run it after your last test injection?

Start your full PCT, where you use HCG at 500ius/ED (weekdays) or 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri) 12-15 days after your last Enan jab. Carry on with the 125-500ius/ED 2/3 times weekly until that point IMHO.