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    Has anyone ran anything like this before?

    What do you think...Any reason not to have run it like this? Any suggestion to improve it?

    1-4 Prop 350/week
    1-10 Test E 750/week
    8-12 Winny 100mg/day (oral)
    10-12 Prop 350/week
    1-14 Milk Thistle 1000mg/day

    PCT
    12-14 Clomid 100mg/day
    14-16 Clomid 50mg/day
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    Why not run the Prop at 100mg ED=700mg EW? Keeps the dose constant for 12 wks.

    I would add an AI to your PCT.

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    I don't like the thought of ED shots for 12 weeks. Other than that, I'd consider it. 4 weeks is long enough to be sticking yourself daily.

    As far as a serm, I suspect Nolva would be a wise addition? I've heard letro after Winny is not good...joints end up too dry. Just what I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto man
    I don't like the thought of ED shots for 12 weeks. Other than that, I'd consider it. 4 weeks is long enough to be sticking yourself daily.

    As far as a serm, I suspect Nolva would be a wise addition? I've heard letro after Winny is not good...joints end up too dry. Just what I've heard.
    Its tough, I barely made 8 weeks, Im working up the balls for another run. Ive ran something close with out the winny. Using prop at the end helped my acne, I think starting pct sooner didnt let my hormones crash as hard. I ran the prop longer at the end because I was getting good gains from the ester switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto man
    I don't like the thought of ED shots for 12 weeks. Other than that, I'd consider it. 4 weeks is long enough to be sticking yourself daily.

    As far as a serm, I suspect Nolva would be a wise addition? I've heard letro after Winny is not good...joints end up too dry. Just what I've heard.
    Bro what I meant was running 100mg ED of prop for 1-4...instead of 50mgED...

    Keep the dose close to your Test E dose, ya know?
    1-4 Prop 100mg ED (700 EW)
    1-10 Test E 750 EW
    etc etc

    LDex would be a good AI inplace of Letro.

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    1-4 Prop 350/week
    1-12 Test E 750/week
    6-12 Winny 100mg/day (oral)
    1-14 Milk Thistle 1000mg/day

    Add some nolva and hcg into that pct aswell. That would help.

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    I here ya now...Initially I was a little concerned about how much test I was running. I figured I was already at a pretty high dose (for me)...I guess the Test E isn't active for atleast 4 weeks....Next time I'll run it @ 700mg for 1-4. This was only my 3rd cycle. I'm happy with the gains...I picked up 16 lbs and finished atleast 1-2% lower BF. Strength is incredible... I'm 5'11 200lbs. Close to 8% bf

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