Disgusted

[djack99587]

I am at the gym today , looking around and im totally disgusted with my size and the way i look , i think i made a wrong decision using the cycle i did , im not seeing any gains, so i just purchased a nice lot of test suspension just now. So besides nolvadex , anything else that i should run with it?

[perfectbeast2001]

what cycle are you/were you running? For how long?

[djack99587]

decca, eq ,winstrol . i know your gonna laugh but im only into my second week . i cant take it though , i feel like im getting nowhere

[djack99587]

heres what i have available to me , if someone could write my a proper cycle i would be greatly thankful..

3 bot decc 250mg/10ml
40 vial test susp 50mg/2ml
5 bot test prop 100mg/10ml
3 bot boldoject 200mg/10ml
200 tab clen 40mcg
100 tab t3 25mcg
300 tab winstrol 10mg
60 nolvadex tab 20mg

if some could help to put that into a proper cycle or tell me what to cut out that would be geat

[perfectbeast2001]

decca, eq ,winstrol. i know your gonna laugh but im only into my second week . i cant take it though , i feel like im getting nowhere

I hope this post is a joke... AS are not magic beans, your not going to turn into Arny overnight. Give it time and make sure your diet is spot on, do you know how many cals you consume per day? do you know the macros for each meal you eat? If the answer is no then forget AS and sort your diet out.
Not keen on the cycle, personally i would add at least a litle test and im not a big fan of EQ especially when stacked with deca .

[djack99587]

how much of the suspension should i add into the mix?

[perfectbeast2001]

Do you know anything about suspension? Why would you want to add it to what looks to me like a cutting cycle?

[djack99587]

i used it once in alone and put on massive gains, i was thinking if i added some now at the begining it would help kickstart my gains

[G-1000]

you kill me bro.

[djack99587]

i guess thats not a good way to kick start some gain?

[perfectbeast2001]

yes it is a good kickstart to a mass gaining cycle, but if that is your goal why the hell are you running deca ,eq and winny?

[djack99587]

man, im all messed up and confused.. thats why im here to get educated.. i just figured if i hit the suspension for a couple weeks it would put a bit more size on me then run out my other gear to harden up...im sure my logic is way out of wack

[spywizard]

man, im all messed up and confused.. thats why im here to get educated.. i just figured if i hit the suspension for a couple weeks it would put a bit more size on me then run out my other gear to harden up...im sure my logic is way out of wack

ok, start over tell us what you want to do, what you hope to accomplish with this cycle..

really what it sounds like to me is you have some image problems, self image and the way we view ourselves are a big problem in this community..

so tell us what you hope to get from this cycle, we'll try and help you out..

[djack99587]

i would just like to add some nice size but with a hard look, thats my goal

[Anaboxa34]

you mentioned that you you've test suspension in the past, what happened with the last cycle that makes u disgusted with yourself now?
What are you planning for pct? that could make a big difference in what you keep from your cycle

[djack99587]

that was in 96 so it was quite a while ago , i have been trianing again for 6 months after a year off. as far as pct i heard hcg /clomid nolva was the way to go , is this correct?

[perfectbeast2001]

i would just like to add some nice size but with a hard look, thats my goal

we all want to do that mate but you have to take it one stage at a time, bulk then cut. Unless you are a genetic freak. Bulking will put some size on but you will look a little soft, then you cut and try to hold onto as much muscle as you can while sheeding the fat. You really should know this basic stuff before you start using Steroids .

[Getbig06]

that was in 96 so it was quite a while ago , i have been trianing again for 6 months after a year off. as far as pct i heard hcg/clomid nolva was the way to go , is this correct?

Brother, you started a cycle and don't even know what your pct is looking like yet? Your on your cycle for 2 weeks and your disgusted with yourself?
I'm not trying to get at you here or flame you but brother you needed to know what your pct was going to be before you even poked yourself with a needle and you need to give the stuff time to kick in... and the most important thing of all is your diet.... if it isn't right expect to lose your gains quickly when you come off

[nofear]

[Anaboxa34]

we all want to do that mate but you have to take it one stage at a time, bulk then cut. Unless you are a genetic freak. Bulking will put some size on but you will look a little soft, then you cut and try to hold onto as much muscle as you can while sheeding the fat. You really should know this basic stuff before you start using Steroids.

Definitly have to agree, I also didnt see any test in your cycle which is something you want to include since your using deca , i have no personal experience with eq and winny but i've read that they will suppress your natty test production (this means you want to add test in your cycle) the three drugs listed for pct are used but how you use them depends on the cycle (you may not need all of them). Do you have all three of those on hand? In the past i've only used clomid for pct so my knowledge of nolvadex is limited but its primarily used to fight gyno so you should keep it on hand if you include the test. I think you should stop the cycle get everything you need first, read the sticky on pct and do some research on what your taking so your not shooting in the dark, use the forums to critique your cycle, then correctly begin a good cycle.
If you continue your cycle regardless you should def include test and read the sticky on pct. good luck with whatever you choose.

[djack99587]

diet ...please be gentle

8am myoplex

11am myoplex egg whites


2pm turkey on wheat/ or chicken wheat

5pm egg whites/ with toast( pre gym)

8pm egg whites

[djack99587]

so far i only have the nolvadex on hand

[wes cst rydr]

diet ...please be gentle

8am myoplex

11am myoplex egg whites


2pm turkey on wheat/ or chicken wheat

5pm egg whites/ with toast( pre gym)

8pm egg whites

are you serious?????whoa! you need to check yourself on every aspect!!!

[Getbig06]

are you serious?????whoa! you need to check yourself on every aspect!!!

Gotta agree

[king6]

diet ...please be gentle

8am myoplex

11am myoplex egg whites


2pm turkey on wheat/ or chicken wheat

5pm egg whites/ with toast( pre gym)

8pm egg whites

That's a pretty good first meal, now post the rest of your diet.

[Getbig06]

You have a lot of readers on this thread... It's going to get crazy here in a minute...

[djack99587]

trying to eat lean / want to harden up

[king6]

Yeah dude,

Where's the food!?!? You barley eating anything. You have no PWO meal, no carbs at all, that may be ok if your cutting, but I'm not sure what you are doing. But in any sense you need to eat more.

[Slowhand]

That's a pretty good first meal, now post the rest of your diet.

shit man... that is pretty much my first meal ;/

[wes cst rydr]

trying to eat lean / want to harden up

you want to get lean or eat yourself alive???come on bro please read som dieting info on the forum.maybe quit your cycle get educated and make it worth while!!

[king6]

shit man... that is pretty much my first meal ;/

Yeah, I think I eat more than that before 10 a.m.

[king6]

Yeah, read up on the "how to cut" thread if that is what you are looking to do. That diet has you restricting your carb intake, but you are still eating 8 times a day, lots of protien. You can't just limit to eggs, eggs lack some of the essential amino acids that you can find in beef. You need some veggies in you diet too.

[djack99587]

Thing is , only time im really hungry is at night , thats when i gotta fight it back , i figured im busy during the day , so if im trying to get lean and not hungry , thought i was doing right for getting leaner

[king6]

Thing is , only time im really hungry is at night , thats when i gotta fight it back , i figured im busy during the day , so if im trying to get lean and not hungry , thought i was doing right for getting leaner

No, starving yourself wont lean you out. You need food, the right kinds of course.

[Bigmax]

Bro,Just read your post...First thing is dont even think about using AAS until you have your nutrition dialed in first...the cycle you're doing now you can stop..if you're only in your second week.The diet you're on now will starve a bird my friend...Lets start all over again and go on to the diet forum and lets put something together according to your goals.

[wjclinton]

This guy is to funny. Picture of a funny looking troll. Toss out the bait and reel it in. This is definitely a joke. Entertaining thread.

[dhriscerr]

Ketosis??? Get some carbs for breakfast, PWO and PPWO! If your cutting thats the only time you need them, but you do need them man! Its not atkins here, Carbs are your friend, if you dont have them, guess what your body burns instead of glucose from carbs, thats right, MUSCLE!!!

[dhriscerr]

Sorry edited, posted twice

[perfectbeast2001]

agree with aove comments. The only thing that diet is good for is wasting muscle. I could eat that before midday during a cut!
Do like bigmax said and get over to the diet forum, check the cutting sticky. Then tailor it to your own bodyweight. http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/bmi.html
will help you to work out an approx bmr and bmi. Then go to http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-ca...dict-equation/ and use the haris-benedict equation to work out how many cals you need to maintain per day, when you know that knock the ammount back by 500 cals and you can put a cutting diet together. In all honesty I would quit cycle and start PCT and save your gear for a year or so time when your diet has been excellent for a while. Otherwise you are just throwing your money away.

[Mista Massive]

That's a pretty good first meal, now post the rest of your diet.

that's what i was thinkin'