never cycled before

**new_to_juicing_88** · 02-01-2007, 05:29 PM

Hey i am new to this site and i am interested in starting a cycle, i dont really want to bulk up i just want to put on more lean muscle mass and make what i have now look more cut. i have been lifting for about 6 years now, i am 5'10" 210 lbs but i am not quite sure of my bf%, I am happy with my size except that i still have a layer of fat everywhere, i want to cut down the fat and look more ripped. i have done a little research and have found out that winstrol , clen , and tren make a good cutting cycle. however i am not sure how much i should take and how often, and how i should change my diet.

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

kind of a side note also, i don't have a source and i am not asking for one i would just like to know if anyone knows about the source that is advertised on this site, the roid store... is it legit or is it just supplements? thanks bros.

**MartyMcFly** · 02-01-2007, 05:39 PM

Roid store is b.s. DO NOT TAKE TREN FOR A FIRST CYCLE! How old are you and aas is not answer for fat loss.

**spywizard** · 02-01-2007, 05:41 PM

wow,

tren
winny
clen

with no test?? you will be very dry (estrogen wise) but you willie will not work for a very long time..

**spywizard** · 02-01-2007, 05:42 PM

go to the diet forum and read the sticky on cutting diet..

sounds to me like that would be all you needed to do to reach your stated goals..

welcome to ar

**passthetest** · 02-01-2007, 05:56 PM

Ya I would definately try out a knew diet to see if you can cut down some bf. If not then maybe you will have to resort to as.

**new_to_juicing_88** · 02-01-2007, 06:06 PM

i have been dieting for the past few months, but i am not losing to the extent of becoming cut (even with extra cardio thrown in), plus i would like to put on more lean muscle, which is why i considered aas in the first place, but then i heard winstrol and tren work wonders for getting cut and adding lean muscle... my diet now consists of 2500 calories spread throughout 5 meals a day, largest at night

i signed up for that mailing list on this forum, is that any good/reliable?

**nephilim666** · 02-01-2007, 07:45 PM

simple awnser

halodrol. get a clone, H-drol , hemmedrol - theres mad clones out..

just my 2cents.

**new_to_juicing_88** · 02-01-2007, 07:48 PM

could you elaborate a little?

**HORSE~** · 02-01-2007, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by new_to_juicing_88

i have been dieting for the past few months, but i am not losing to the extent of becoming cut (even with extra cardio thrown in), plus i would like to put on more lean muscle, which is why i considered aas in the first place, but then i heard winstrol and tren work wonders for getting cut and adding lean muscle... my diet now consists of 2500 calories spread throughout 5 meals a day, largest at night

i signed up for that mailing list on this forum, is that any good/reliable?

Obviously you do not have your deit down pat or you would be losing the extra fat that you want to lose....

YOU DO NOT NEED STEROIDS TO LOSE WEIGHT!!!!

Yes the suppliers list is legit....

**new_to_juicing_88** · 02-01-2007, 07:56 PM

i realize that, i am not simply trying to lose weight, i want to gain lean muscle as well as increase my strength, i play football and baseball, i also want the muscle i have now to be more defined and cut

**nephilim666** · 02-01-2007, 08:19 PM

HALO . lol . im not the person whos guna tell u not to do it because u ahvenmt reached a limit or something, becuase honeslty i dont give a shit , not evberyone wants to be a pro bodybuilder, some people could actualy use the help that AAS can give to aid in sports and whatnot, honeslty if ur guna do something that can help get u more cut and gain a little LBM i would suggest halodrol, google it man, thers legal clones all over the place. check out logs to find a good cycle of how to us eit. ( most people will not agree with me on telling you to use anything by the way, im just not a huge fan of the magic limit shit )

**new_to_juicing_88** · 02-01-2007, 10:40 PM

magic limit shit? sorry i am new to this whole thing lol

**Hellmaskbanned** · 02-01-2007, 11:27 PM

Whats your stats?

<>Must post Height/Weight/BF%/Cycle Experience/Goals for any advice to be given<>

Also how old are you?

**new_to_juicing_88** · 02-01-2007, 11:31 PM

24 yrs old 5'10" 210 lbs 6 years workout experience, lift 5 times a week, cardio everyday, this would be my first cycle, my goal is to become a little bigger and more defined/cut