Thread: Big BUST here today in Jerzy...
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03-13-2007, 09:35 PM #41
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what an idiot, thats what he gets especially for pushing these variety of substances to immature high schoolers..
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03-13-2007, 09:53 PM #42
you guys do know a Pro BBer went down in that bust aswell right???
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03-14-2007, 08:02 AM #43
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Yeah. Jay Arntz.
I know him...the last time he got busted was for Ecstasy, which was back when I was still in college and living near him (working out at the gym he worked at). Most recently I saw him at the NPC New Jersey Contest, where he had done contest prep for a couple people I know, and I had helped a figure girl out.
I think his best placing was a 6th at the NOC or something, back when I was working out at the same gym as him. Nice guy, but always in trouble.
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03-14-2007, 08:14 AM #44
What really sucks is all the guys sellin juice dont just sell juice, they will get busted slangin no rec drug talkand then roll over on the juicers so they get out of it. I ahve seen it happen more then once and thats why I dont buy from anybody who can put my name to my face.I would rather risk a few bucks then a few years
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03-14-2007, 08:18 AM #45
Anthony you have mail...
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03-14-2007, 08:27 AM #46
In a series of raids and arrests between Friday and Sunday, police said they seized more than $20,000 in cash, a pill press and other drug manufacturing equipment, ingredients to make 35,000 doses of steroids, a dozen vehicles, $200,000 worth of weapons and a slew of drugs, including steroids , cocaine, marijuana and Cialis.
I think the 200,000 was just weapons alone, and the fact that they had enough ingredients to make 35,000 doses didn't help (however I dont know what they consider a dose) Doesn't help that they were highschool kids. I was looking at steroid law.com and max time for selling was 3 years, unless to someone under 21 it was 10 years. So thats no joke, Im not saying whats right or wrong, and I don't want to judge the character of the people involved especially if you know them personally and I dont, but to the average outsider looking in, It looks alot bigger than just some gym rat, muscle heads making some gear for them and some buddy's. Please don't take offense to this as I am not trying to belittle the people you know. Its just when Rec drugs, and $200,000 worth of firearms are involved it doesn't help the situation.
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03-14-2007, 09:18 AM #47
says they were making other stuff, street drugs. that part makes our sport look really bad. and selling to kids is totally bad. causes alot of harm and they should have known better.
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03-14-2007, 09:30 AM #48
A lot of the time what you get is the main guy selling to adults, who may then sell to some other adults. Finally it trickles down to where some of those adults sell to kids in high school. Probably doubtful that any of the main guys was selling directly to kids.
I know this was the case where I grew up. The famous powerlifter Larry Pacifico ran a gym in my town and was selling AAS. Some of my friends had bought some that came down the pipeline from him, but I dont think he had any knowledge of it. He of course did get busted and had to go on national tv and talk about the evils of AAS as part of his plea. I dont think he ever did any jail time over it.
If youre dealing in AAS, you can never tell where the product is going to turn up in the end. Really noway to control that.
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03-14-2007, 10:07 AM #49
good point, you never know. dang that sucks......
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03-14-2007, 10:11 AM #50
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"Cuppari and Dente were also accused of manufacturing EDITED, known as a "date rape" drug, but also used by bodybuilders to counteract the side effects of steroids , such as trouble sleeping and anger."
I'm soooooo angry, I need EDITED....
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03-14-2007, 11:08 AM #51
Originally Posted by briancb1
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03-14-2007, 11:13 AM #52
Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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03-14-2007, 11:52 AM #53
Originally Posted by dhriscerr
bro, you need to use more comman sense here. The $200,000 was the TOTAL ASSETS + ILLEGAL CONTRIBANDS seized. So included in that was their cars, drugs, 2 weapons (1 .38 caliber handgun and a tazer gun) and their lab equipment. Obviously it doesn't improve the situation but your making it sound like they confiscated a tank. That's what the newspaper do to jazz up their stories, they mix their words up deliberatley. Like dizz mentioned above, it's the shock value of the story that sells papers.
Todays Update, Yet Again made the Front page of Daily Record.
Police used wiretaps in 4 month long investigation. It also said in the article that a HS student snitched on all the "suspects". Man would I like to meet this kid for a face to face beat down.. FuC*en rat punk kidLast edited by axemurderer187; 03-14-2007 at 12:04 PM.
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03-14-2007, 12:09 PM #54
Originally Posted by briancb1
EDITED increases Growth Hormone levels and put you in a deeper REM sleep (where most of recovery takes place). that's most likely why they had it....not to go out and rape anyone...once again, News trying to shock everyone with this
Dizz
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03-14-2007, 03:30 PM #55
Originally Posted by axemurderer187
Oh you know for real being a jersey guy like myself that shit don't fly. you know people find out who the rat is and "shit" happens not to them but someone in their family will get ****ed up im sure. it is just the jersey way. oh well. i won't lose sleep over it.
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03-14-2007, 04:23 PM #56
Originally Posted by The Legend
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03-14-2007, 04:28 PM #57
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I must say that you do have to pay attention to your suroundings when it comes to anything illegal always have to watch what you say.
cops are always in the gym bad place to do buisness.
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03-14-2007, 04:31 PM #58
Originally Posted by axemurderer187
Originally Posted by Dizz28
Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
Originally Posted by Schmidty
Originally Posted by briancb1
Originally Posted by Dizz28
NO REC DRUG TALK
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03-14-2007, 04:38 PM #59
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Refrain from discussing recreational drugs or this thread will be closed.
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03-14-2007, 04:42 PM #60
Originally Posted by The Legend
Sure is ie Soprano's, shit is for real
Kinda dumb though selling to minors.
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03-14-2007, 05:47 PM #61
Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
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03-14-2007, 07:57 PM #62
Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
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03-14-2007, 08:03 PM #63
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i dont think this is the right forum either..
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03-14-2007, 08:42 PM #64
Originally Posted by BOOST
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03-15-2007, 12:52 PM #65
Usually, folks don't get busted for drug use or simply "trying to build muscle", but the criminal activity surrounding the drugs themselves, for example these fellows in Jersey. And if you are selling aas to minors, snitch or no snitch, that just doesn't fly with me.
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03-15-2007, 01:26 PM #66
Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
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03-15-2007, 01:45 PM #67
Originally Posted by axemurderer187
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04-12-2007, 11:13 AM #68
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Yo....if you read my stimulant article from T- Nation with Cy Wilson...the Professional Bodybuilder who I mention (and don't name) ...who took 8th at the NOC...is Jay Arntz....read tha article and check it out...see what I say about him, then compare with what he got arrested for...
I just noticed that in this article today...
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04-12-2007, 11:33 AM #69
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That bust is like, worst case scenario. They found powders, weapons, cash, pill presses, etc. If anyone is dumb enough to leave all that in their car, they deserve to get arrested!
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04-12-2007, 11:39 AM #70
i think its all bs if the gov. and law enforcement would concentrate on the real problems here in the us instead of on people in poss of gear. the way i see it probably 99% of people who use gear are pretty much productive citizens who love the gym. i could see if gear caused thousands of deaths theft and murder. alchohol will prob kill more people and cause more crime this month than gear has in the last 50 yrs
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04-12-2007, 11:48 AM #71
Texas cops are on steriods too, all of them are at my gym, and there all fat. They just dont know how to work out right.
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04-12-2007, 11:51 AM #72
Sadly alot of rec drug dealers here are the ones selling AAS too, and selling it to there buddies so most of the drug dealers are the big dudes. I'll just continue to order mine elsewhere, I dont care to associate myself with those people. Im just pissed the state patrol, immediately turns you down if you've done AAS but you can have smoked ***** up to 15 times? Rediculous.
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04-12-2007, 12:04 PM #73
Hope this shit doesn't trickle down to central jersey. That why I say NOTHING at the gym. I hear dumbasses talking about it all the time in my gym too. Luckliy I don't fvck with those jackasses. They just had another bust around here but in PA at LA fitness. Keep ya shit on the DL bros. I only talk to dude either as big as me or bigger...fvcked up thing is two of em are cops. And ones a DEA agent and sells. I wouldn't buy from him though. A lot of cop in this area Juice. Actually one higher up guy, he was huge, got busted for a lab around here. Was manufacturing and mailing shit.
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04-12-2007, 12:08 PM #74
Originally Posted by dhriscerr
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200k of GUNs not cars
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