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    planning future cycle for May

    im planning on doing my second cycle in may.

    this is what i plan to do

    test E- 600mg\10 week

    deca -300mg\10 week

    clomid-100mg\2 week, 50mg 2 week


    i also have some left over sust 300, and am wondering if it would be benificial to throw that in at small doses throughout the cycle to get the benifits of the longer releasing steroids found in sust to keep my blood levels stable.


    critique is appreciated. although flaming is not.


    also here are my stats...

    age: 21
    height: 5'11
    weight: 185-190
    bodyfat: 6-7%
    training: 3 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngnastyman
    im planning on doing my second cycle in may.

    this is what i plan to do

    test E- 600mg\10 week

    deca -300mg\10 week

    clomid-100mg\2 week, 50mg 2 week


    i also have some left over sust 300, and am wondering if it would be benificial to throw that in at small doses throughout the cycle to get the benifits of the longer releasing steroids found in sust to keep my blood levels stable.


    critique is appreciated. although flaming is not.


    also here are my stats...

    age: 21
    height: 5'11
    weight: 185-190
    bodyfat: 6-7%
    training: 3 years
    You might want to run the test a couple of weeks longer than the deca..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuball
    You might want to run the test a couple of weeks longer than the deca..
    so 12 weeks test e? may i ask why this is benificial

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngnastyman
    so 12 weeks test e? may i ask why this is benificial
    the decanoate ester is longer lasting then the enanthate ester of the test. The Test levels would be dropping faster then the Nandrolone would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngnastyman
    so 12 weeks test e? may i ask why this is benificial
    Longer 1/2 life with the deca , wanna keep that pecker going, IMO. You could even up the deca to 400, but personally i like the 600 test 300 deca..

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    Your PCT is 2 weeks of clomid at 50mg ed? Horrible. Go to the link in my signature for PCT to do more research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino
    Your PCT is 2 weeks of clomid at 50mg ed? Horrible. Go to the link in my signature for PCT to do more research.
    PCy he said was 100mg for 2 weeks then 50mg for 2 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28
    PCy he said was 100mg for 2 weeks then 50mg for 2 weeks
    Ya actually just caught that now as well. Still not good imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino
    Ya actually just caught that now as well. Still not good imo.

    clomid is not my favorite anyway.

    Plenty of Nolva, HCG and heavy training is all I need

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    I've noticed everyone has a personal prefference as to how they run clomid in pct. I personally run it 200/ed for 2-3 wks then down it to 100/ed for 2 wks or so. along with 40/ed nolva for the first 2 the 20/ed for the last 2

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    im probabably gonna throw in some mygoenx into there, maybe an AI


    does anyone have an opinion on the sust 300?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngnastyman
    im probabably gonna throw in some mygoenx into there, maybe an AI


    does anyone have an opinion on the sust 300?
    You can use that to start out with due to the short esters. It will get your hormone levels up fast

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    sustanon ? if you want my opinion I'd say stick with single ester test. but I also hate sust...so

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    if yer looking to frontload you could try a good oral like d-bol 20-40 a day...just a sugestion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28
    You can use that to start out with due to the short esters. It will get your hormone levels up fast
    thanks thats what i wanted to know, i just hated the idea of letting leftovers go to waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngnastyman
    thanks thats what i wanted to know, i just hated the idea of letting leftovers go to waste
    Just do EOD inj of the Sust and then when it's done start with the Test E. No need for it to go to waste. I don't like sust that musch either. won't ever buy it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngnastyman
    thanks thats what i wanted to know, i just hated the idea of letting leftovers go to waste
    yeah..it will get your levels up...but remember there's not a whole lot of prop in each sust shot. I think if you're looking to frontload you'd be better with an oral. but if ya wanna use up left over stock I guess go for it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydub
    yeah..it will get your levels up...but remember there's not a whole lot of prop in each sust shot. I think if you're looking to frontload you'd be better with an oral. but if ya wanna use up left over stock I guess go for it!!

    "Fronloading" is when you double you dose of an injectable long acting estered hormone to get you blood level up faster.

    Takeing an oral until your injectable kicks in is called a "kickstart"

    I think you have those two terms mixed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28
    "Fronloading" is when you double you dose of an injectable long acting estered hormone to get you blood level up faster.

    Takeing an oral until your injectable kicks in is called a "kickstart"

    I think you have those two terms mixed up

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    yeah.. but he's talking about jumping his hormone level up faster by using the fast ester in sust...so I ws just advising that due to the low level of prop in the sust mixture he'd be better off jumping his levels up with a single fast acting compound

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydub
    yeah.. but he's talking about jumping his hormone level up faster by using the fast ester in sust...so I ws just advising that due to the low level of prop in the sust mixture he'd be better off jumping his levels up with a single fast acting compound

    Hmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28
    Just do EOD inj of the Sust and then when it's done start with the Test E. No need for it to go to waste. I don't like sust that musch either. won't ever buy it again.
    IMO, 30 mgs of prop sucks, i get painless sust, and prop, so i add an extra 70 mgs of prop to the sust.. Love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuball
    IMO, 30 mgs of prop sucks, i get painless sust, and prop, so i add an extra 70 mgs of prop to the sust.. Love it


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    idk why people hate sust so much...mine wasnt overpriced and i made good gains off it



    btw what kind of gains can i expect off this cycle? my diet has the perfect ammount of calories and protein and vitamins, and my training is effective

    can i expect 20lbs??
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    was thinking....maybe i could use my leftover sust to keep my sex drive up and just only buy deca and save some money, because to keep your sex drive up i wouldnt need very much test would i?

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