gyno at 19??? no cycle??? WTF????????

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 11:26 AM

ok guys im 19, i got these little lumps behind my nipples back when i was like 16, they are like marble size and often change sizes sometimes they are small sometimes fairly large.

my brother had them too but his are gone, mine are still here, my nipples puff up every now and then, actually they are puffed up right now, so im wondering could this be gyno???

i have NEVER done a cycle before all natural so far

oh and the lumps hurt when squeezed, sometimes it hurts to even touch my nipples

help me out here

**nyjetsfan86** · 05-08-2007, 11:29 AM

have you done any pro-hormones or anything like that? how long have you had them? some people get gyno from puberty

**kfrost06** · 05-08-2007, 12:08 PM

sounds like gyno to me and yes you can get gyno with out ever doing a cycle.

**juice4life** · 05-08-2007, 12:09 PM

You need to go to an endo. and get your hormone levels checked.

Something might be out of wack.

I had pubescent gyno but had normal levels when they checked, so I was able to get surgery for it.

**doolo** · 05-08-2007, 01:15 PM

Yah dude, i had the same thing. Got some lumps under the nip when i was 14 or so. Im guessing you put on muscles easily and have some nice bacne to go with it. When i went to public gyms i had to be fully clothed or poeple would think i was on juice. all the zits, tits and much more gains then the average goon i went to the gym with. I only ever woar a tank top once and i got several comment and questions about what i was taking to get like that. If you live in Canada the operation is free, dunno about the states or where ever it is you live.

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by doolo

Yah dude, i had the same thing. Got some lumps under the nip when i was 14 or so. Im guessing you put on muscles easily and have some nice bacne to go with it. When i went to public gyms i had to be fully clothed or poeple would think i was on juice. all the zits, tits and much more gains then the average goon i went to the gym with. I only ever woar a tank top once and i got several comment and questions about what i was taking to get like that. If you live in Canada the operation is free, dunno about the states or where ever it is you live.

hahahahaha here is the deal with me I put on muscle WAYYYYYYY EASY, and i CUT FAT WAYYYYYY EASY, but i get these outbreaks of zits on my back and then they are gone in like two weeks and then they come out again in like a month or so, its weird

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by nyjetsfan86

have you done any pro-hormones or anything like that? how long have you had them? some people get gyno from puberty

nope no pro hormones, the only supplement i ever took was BCAA, Protein shakes and multivitamin but thats is it

**GHO5T** · 05-08-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by boDAWG

hahahahaha here is the deal with me I put on muscle WAYYYYYYY EASY, and i CUT FAT WAYYYYYY EASY, but i get these outbreaks of zits on my back and then they are gone in like two weeks and then they come out again in like a month or so, its weird

B/c your hormones arent staying at stable levels throughout your bulking or cutting phases.

Are you taking any pro-hormones, or have you in the past.

~GHO5T~

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by juice4life

You need to go to an endo. and get your hormone levels checked.

Something might be out of wack.

I had pubescent gyno but had normal levels when they checked, so I was able to get surgery for it.

endo what?

**juice4life** · 05-08-2007, 02:18 PM

Endocrinologist. You need to go see this type of doctor and let them test your hormone levels. You could have high testosterone levels, which are causing your estrogen levels to be elevated. Go and get them checked and they can get your levels balanced if they are off. This should get your gyno to go away.

**muscle_20** · 05-08-2007, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by boDAWG

hahahahaha here is the deal with me I put on muscle WAYYYYYYY EASY, and i CUT FAT WAYYYYYY EASY, but i get these outbreaks of zits on my back and then they are gone in like two weeks and then they come out again in like a month or so, its weird

sounds like your going to be pro then just put on waaaaaaaay tons of muscle and then cut it waaaaaaaay fast

lots of people get gyno during puberty its not rare at all.

**Unoid** · 05-08-2007, 02:58 PM

I had pubescent gyno. No hormones r anything, I cut down to 6% bf to see if it was fat, but nope.
at age 20 I got surgery to remove it.

It happens to a lot of men. usually its ges away but on some it gets perminent.

btw if you're looking for a way to rid yourself of it, I don't know if I'd advise Using Letro to combat the gyno.

19 y.o. + No estrogen might be bad.

**JaCKeDuPD** · 05-08-2007, 03:53 PM

very possible getting gyno without hittin up a cycle... i took m1t's and haladrol's and my shyt came outa no where quick... wait a lil see wut happens u said ur bro got it and it went right see if it goes if its reallllllyyy bothering go see a doc or last if u did take m1t's or haladrol's both known to cause gyno.... and i mean LAST resort letro it up... read up on things first and have ur own insight on facts and shyt... but me personally id go see a doc first specially if u still on the pops insurance plan still bein 19 good luck bro gyno is some nasty shyt got it right now

**Decoder** · 05-08-2007, 04:40 PM

what is your body fat percent. ?

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by muscle_20

sounds like your going to be pro then just put on waaaaaaaay tons of muscle and then cut it waaaaaaaay fast

lots of people get gyno during puberty its not rare at all.

comparing to my buddies that are the same age and my twin brother i put on way more muscle and way quicker, but i do eat WAYYYYY better than them too so im sure thats a huge difference oh and i train 6 days a week and they train 4 days a week

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by juice4life

Endocrinologist. You need to go see this type of doctor and let them test your hormone levels. You could have high testosterone levels, which are causing your estrogen levels to be elevated. Go and get them checked and they can get your levels balanced if they are off. This should get your gyno to go away.

thanks man ill do that

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Decoder

what is your body fat percent. ?

15% ish

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by JaCKeDuPD

very possible getting gyno without hittin up a cycle... i took m1t's and haladrol's and my shyt came outa no where quick... wait a lil see wut happens u said ur bro got it and it went right see if it goes if its reallllllyyy bothering go see a doc or last if u did take m1t's or haladrol's both known to cause gyno.... and i mean LAST resort letro it up... read up on things first and have ur own insight on facts and shyt... but me personally id go see a doc first specially if u still on the pops insurance plan still bein 19 good luck bro gyno is some nasty shyt got it right now

nah man im on my own insurance, but i never did an of that ill have it checked out cuz it you cant notice it when im like 10ft away or further but when your like close to me, my bro was like BRO why are ur nipples all puffed up and shyt so i dunno

**Dizz28** · 05-08-2007, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Unoid

I had pubescent gyno. No hormones r anything, I cut down to 6% bf to see if it was fat, but nope.
at age 20 I got surgery to remove it.

It happens to a lot of men. usually its ges away but on some it gets perminent.

btw if you're looking for a way to rid yourself of it, I don't know if I'd advise Using Letro to combat the gyno.

19 y.o. + No estrogen might be bad.

Same thing happened to me. I was told by my family physician that it will most likely go away once I get older but when I was 24 and it was still present, I had surgery to get rid of it. Had a hard lump under my nipple with a little bit of fat around it. My insurance paid for it so I did it.

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

Same thing happened to me. I was told by my family physician that it will most likely go away once I get older but when I was 24 and it was still present, I had surgery to get rid of it. Had a hard lump under my nipple with a little bit of fat around it. My insurance paid for it so I did it.

whats the process like for the surgery? can you lift or run after it? how long is the healing and surgery process???

**Dizz28** · 05-08-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by boDAWG

whats the process like for the surgery? can you lift or run after it? how long is the healing and surgery process???

It's a simple process really. I went into the hospital and was given general anestesia in the OR. Surgery lasted about 90minutes and I was discharged about 3 hours after I woke up. Once you get home recovery is pretty simple...you just rest and they give you some sort of pain medication also. You go back about a week afterwards and they remove the bandage over the incision. It is best if you do as little as possible during this first week to keep scarring down...and I did. i basically just laid on the couch and slept or watched tv...mostly slept because of the pain meds but you shouldn't do much with that side of your body none the less. The swelling lasted about a month and they told me I could start lifting after that. I was told I could do some cardio afer 3 weeks.

Something that could delay you is a drain...this is determined by your surgeon and could delay your recovery a couple weeks. This is just a tube that's placed in the wound to help drain blood and other fluids out. It all ***ends on how much tissue is removed and if your surgeon feels you need one. The final decision is made during surgery on whether you need one or not.

hope this helps
Dizz

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

It's a simple process really. I went into the hospital and was given general anestesia in the OR. Surgery lasted about 90minutes and I was discharged about 3 hours after I woke up. Once you get home recovery is pretty simple...you just rest and they give you some sort of pain medication also. You go back about a week afterwards and they remove the bandage over the incision. It is best if you do as little as possible during this first week to keep scarring down...and I did. i basically just laid on the couch and slept or watched tv...mostly slept because of the pain meds but you shouldn't do much with that side of your body none the less. The swelling lasted about a month and they told me I could start lifting after that. I was told I could do some cardio afer 3 weeks.

Something that could delay you is a drain...this is determined by your surgeon and could delay your recovery a couple weeks. This is just a tube that's placed in the wound to help drain blood and other fluids out. It all ***ends on how much tissue is removed and if your surgeon feels you need one. The final decision is made during surgery on whether you need one or not.

hope this helps
Dizz

thanks a lot man im going in next week to have it looked at and taken care of

**Dizz28** · 05-08-2007, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by boDAWG

thanks a lot man im going in next week to have it looked at and taken care of

It's really not that bad at all. Pain was limited to the first couple days for me. After the 3rd day I was pretty much pain free and stopped taking my pain meds all together. Of course this varies from person to person, I was lucky and had no complications, no real excessive tissue removal or a drain placed so my recovery was fairly fast. My scar is barely visable and people don't notice it unless I tell them it's there. But like I said, it's important not to move that side of your body much during the first week after surgery.

hope all goes well

Dizz

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

It's really not that bad at all. Pain was limited to the first couple days for me. After the 3rd day I was pretty much pain free and stopped taking my pain meds all together. Of course this varies from person to person, I was lucky and had no complications, no real excessive tissue removal or a drain placed so my recovery was fairly fast. My scar is barely visable and people don't notice it unless I tell them it's there. But like I said, it's important not to move that side of your body much during the first week after surgery.

hope all goes well

Dizz

ok so say i left it as it is now, what could gyno do in the future?

**Dizz28** · 05-08-2007, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by boDAWG

ok so say i left it as it is now, what could gyno do in the future?

If you didn't get the surgery?? Well You would be very prone to developing even worst gyno using AAS that aromatize or stimulate breast tissue like Anadrol . It's best if you get it taken care of now rather then later when it gets larger. But it's very hard to deal with if you already have gyno naturally and you start AAS.

Dizz

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 06:47 PM

ok take a look at this and tell me if you can tell anything from pics

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=298592

**muscle_20** · 05-08-2007, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by boDAWG

comparing to my buddies that are the same age and my twin brother i put on way more muscle and way quicker, but i do eat WAYYYYY better than them too so im sure thats a huge difference oh and i train 6 days a week and they train 4 days a week

well to be honest 4 days will provide much better results than 6(i have tried all forms including 2 times a day every day)but i have learnt from the big boys that 4-5 is plenty.

From the pics i cant see any gyno well perhaps a tiny bit under the right nipple but to be honest that is nothing any one will notice.

**Dizz28** · 05-08-2007, 07:06 PM

I can't see much gyno either, but it's always more noticable to the person it effects. If your surgeon feels the need for surgery I wouldn't expect it to be too complicated. You wouldn't need much tissue removed.

Dizz

**boDAWG** · 05-08-2007, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by muscle_20

well to be honest 4 days will provide much better results than 6(i have tried all forms including 2 times a day every day)but i have learnt from the big boys that 4-5 is plenty.

From the pics i cant see any gyno well perhaps a tiny bit under the right nipple but to be honest that is nothing any one will notice.

yah i lift 5 but im in the gym 6 times a week, the extra day im running and swimming, but i do cardio every morning as well, and yeah right nipple has a bigger lump but left is puffier

**Schmidty** · 05-09-2007, 07:17 AM

Im in the same boat u are. Mine is from meds i took as a kid though. I had blood work done and i got low test, im suppose to be on HRT for life, i never got on HRT because once ur on u have a very slim chance of having kids. Go to ur endo and they will tell u whats up, hopefully u can get it cut4free