lethargic, ***ressed, angry, nightmares, VERY EMOTIONAL! what the F?

**Dobie-BOY** · 05-16-2007, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

Why are you taking nolva, adex and letro?

taking adex as an ai
-I didnt feel like adex was doing enough for the water retenetion, so I added letro in a very small dose for a little more AI effect. Im taking the nolvadex to improve my blood lipid profile.

**nirish_mark20** · 05-16-2007, 12:41 PM

bro, its all over the place. im no where near as experienced as some of the other guys here but id say that since its all over the place, stop it now and get stuck into PCT! plan something a little easier to stick with for future and in the meantime keep the training and diet up.

remember, even if ur ***ressed, everyone is here to support you. try not to let things get to you, because everything is relative in life! if u have to stop, do it!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 05-16-2007, 01:57 PM

stop taking the adex and nolva all together and just maintain steady letro at lowest poss dose, im pretty sure that will help you ALOT

**gixxerboy1** · 05-16-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

stop taking the adex and nolva all together and just maintain steady letro at lowest poss dose, im pretty sure that will help you ALOT

I agree.

I think you are taking to much stuff to try to treat side effect and causing yourself more sides.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 05-16-2007, 02:36 PM

Also forgot to mention make sure diet is 100% on point, keep the soduim levels nice and low, plenty of veg and some low GI fruits. Make sure to have fish oils in there as they do wonders for BP issues. I take 6 caps a day minimum. Also a good multi. And dont stress out!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 05-16-2007, 03:13 PM

^oh god its Ross^

**Dobie-BOY** · 05-16-2007, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by nirish_mark20

bro, its all over the place. im no where near as experienced as some of the other guys here but id say that since its all over the place, stop it now and get stuck into PCT! plan something a little easier to stick with for future and in the meantime keep the training and diet up.

remember, even if ur ***ressed, everyone is here to support you. try not to let things get to you, because everything is relative in life! if u have to stop, do it!

thanks for the support bro. I have been feeling much better lately. Still kinda lethargic, but I think this is normal for the high dosages of juice I am on. I got some B-12 on the way. im hoping tis will help a little.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 05-16-2007, 04:51 PM

check your RBC before taking B12 as it will make it worse....

**Dobie-BOY** · 05-16-2007, 05:03 PM

ok, Im gonna stick with what Im doing right now, as my mentallity has returned to normal. I currently take 3 capsules of fish oil a day (the recomende dose) but i will up it to 6 capsules a day. I want to thank everyone for their positive input. Especially gixxer & beast.

**Dobie-BOY** · 05-16-2007, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

check your RBC before taking B12 as it will make it worse....

ya, they checked out my RBC when I donated blood. It was in the normal range.

**Gungnir** · 05-16-2007, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

Why are you taking nolva, adex and letro?

It's all part of a balanced breakfast?

**Idunno** · 05-16-2007, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Serotonin

Because in the US (where I live) you are specifically asked to look at a list of activities that would preclude you from donating.

Two of them are as follows:

1) Most medications are ok, but you may be deferred if you are taking certain antibiotics, steroids , and other medications.

2) You cannot donate if you have ever injected drugs not prescribed by a doctor or had sex with someone who has.

So, it is not safe by any stretch of the imagination since you could be introducing any sort of pathogen into your blood stream each time you inject your gear.

As for number 2, I don't care what way you slice it, you're injecting drugs not prescribed by a doctor if you're using gear. Mentally you may think steroid use is OK, as do I, but others may not. Would you want blood from someone that was injecting heroin for 2 months? They may think heroin use is OK, used a good technique, and always used sterile needles. Even if I knew all of that, I'd pass. So even if you want to donate or lower RBC count and BP, you're being deceptive to donate blood by not being honest on screening questions. Just do some good old phlebotomy!

(kidding)

you left out option number 3

donate blood and then call the number on the paper they give you and anonymously enter in the number on the sticker on the same paper. the blood will be immediately destroyed thereby removing any threat to you morals or other objections... I regularly donate my time and blood with the Red Cross and I know that there should be no problem donating and then calling in your number except your wasting their money in taking you sample and stuff...

**taiboxa** · 05-17-2007, 05:07 AM

1 simple solution and u could fix almost all those sides even the estrogen

drop ur test down to 1/2 TRT(~125mg/wk of LONG ester) dose, gains will still keep comming and sides will be easier to manipulate

**Dobie-BOY** · 05-17-2007, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

1 simple solution and u could fix almost all those sides even the estrogen

drop ur test down to 1/2 TRT(~125mg/wk of LONG ester) dose, gains will still keep comming and sides will be easier to manipulate

Ok, but I got a stupid question. what does "1/2 TRT" mean? are you saying to drop the test to only 125 mg/wk of test?