Thread: First Cycle Questions
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05-28-2007, 01:04 PM #1
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First Cycle Questions
Alright, I want to start my first cycle soon and I want to do it as safe as possible and not like a idoit. I read all over this site that people overdo it with their first cycles. I read the entire Newbies Starter Pack and I decided not to go with Dbol or anything on my first cycle. I read that alot of people say to go with JUST TEST on the first cycle. I know you guys must get tired of the same dumb questions from noobies, but i really want to get this right and use AAS instead of abuse them and give them a bad rep.
I was thinking of doing Test E- 500-600wk?
and nova as my PCT.
Please help me out with my dosing and critique my cycle and add, replace or do whaterve you suggest.. you guys have the knowledge and im just here to learn.
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05-28-2007, 01:47 PM #2
Test E 500mg a week shot twice a week for 12 weeks. Mon-Thurs PCT starts 2 weeks after last injection. I would run Anthony's PCT, It is in the PCT area
500mg test e shoot it twice weekly, run it 12 weeks
.25 Eod arimidex
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05-28-2007, 01:54 PM #3
all you would need for that simple cycle is nolva/arimidex dont over do the pct on 1 ester cycle.
10-12 weeks Test enth 500mgs a week.
sounds good to me.
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05-28-2007, 01:55 PM #4
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first off welcome to the board.......what are your stats
age
weight
height
BF%
years lifting
goals you want to acheive
cycle would run like this
test e 500-600mg a week for 10 or 12 weeks
nolva 15-30mg a day (bump up dosage if sore nips occure)
clomid and nolva for pct (pct 2 weeks after last shot)
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05-28-2007, 02:38 PM #5
Originally Posted by THEjuiceISloose73
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05-28-2007, 02:42 PM #6
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Clomid really neccesary for a first cycle?
seeing as how its only a test e cycle, his natty test wont be shut down that hard, down if anything!
shouldnt nolva just be about right? helps bring back some natty test and prevents any gyno if any
anyone else agree?
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05-28-2007, 03:33 PM #7
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Age: almost 20
height:6'2 and change
Weight: Fluctuating between 180 and 190
BF: around 12-14
bout 2 years into lifting and i just would like to get bigger and stronger. I have been looking for a cycle for about a year now and am deciding to take the dive
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05-28-2007, 05:18 PM #8
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oh.. If anyone thinks of a better first cycle, please tell me
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05-28-2007, 05:26 PM #9
Cycle looks fine, just make sure you run an AI and a SERM for PCT. Aromasin and Toremifene get my vote.
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05-28-2007, 06:56 PM #10
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hey beast! think maybe for a first timer he could just use aromasin and nolva dont u agree?
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05-28-2007, 08:26 PM #11
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even though he wont be shut down i jst use clomid cause its easy to access for me and stops from losing the gains you made faster....guess i dont mind using it
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05-28-2007, 08:35 PM #12
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500mg a week shot 2 times a week for 12 weeks use cypionate or enenthate.during your cycle only use a anti -e if need save it for pct.and make sure yor food intake is up or it just a waste of time and money
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05-28-2007, 09:57 PM #13
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Originally Posted by mr.boss
this is very VERY important as to gettin and noticing some good gains
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05-29-2007, 03:24 PM #14
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my bf is posted above.
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05-29-2007, 03:30 PM #15
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So everyone is saying take:
Test E at 500mg/wk 10-12wks
Nolva at 15-30mg/ed
PCT:
Clomid: 2wks after last Test E shot...(dosing?)
and i was wondering what you guys thought about adding some Nandrolene deconate? (sp?) if you guys think it would be safe then dosing?
Trust me, my diet has been in check for over 4 months.. i take down 400+g of protien a day and eat lean as a whistle, it sucks but it is a scrafice I am willing to make. i take down between 3800 and 4200 cals per day
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05-29-2007, 06:56 PM #16
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*Bump*
My uncle also told me that instead of deca , to maby use winny. But i havent seen many people use that in a first cycle and I dont like that a side is drying out the joints. ???
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05-29-2007, 07:56 PM #17
read up some more on deca . i read that although some find the side effects mild it shts down natural test production hardcore. I have read to save that for future cycles. I am no expert though.
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05-29-2007, 08:37 PM #18
u should really stick with just test. if u start add stuff on the first cycle and start having problems with something how you gonna know what caused it. if you eat like u say and your stats are correct youll love that test cycle.
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05-29-2007, 09:32 PM #19
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alright.. thanks everyone.
Im going to run
test-e 600mg/wk 10-12wks
Nolvaex 15-30mg/ed
or
Armidex (dosage?)
Pct:clomid (dosage?)
if that looks alright to everyone then i will start that soon.. now finding gear is going to be the hard part
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05-29-2007, 09:56 PM #20
testiviron ***ot worked great for me
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05-29-2007, 10:07 PM #21
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don't run nolva during a cycle. run arimidex .25 a day during the cycle and nolvadex at 20 mg for 6 weeks, two weeks after your last shot. it would be nice to combine that with aromasin 25 mg a day for 3 weeks at the same time you start the nolva. you'll retain a lot of your gains and recover more rapidly after your cycle if you do it this way.
don't use clomid, it's an inferior version of nolva, plus it may affect your eye sight.
winny will shed fat it doesn't sound like you need that, and deca 's gonna shut you down harder, but if you go to the trouble of doing this pct i recommended, i think you would be alright with the deca and it would provide a nice harder look to your muscles and you'll gain more mass in the long run.
500 mg test e and 400 mg deca a week you would get massive.
eat and train like crazy.. get your moneys worth
you're too young though. you should wait until you are 21 (know you don't want to hear it, but i had to throw it in).
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whats a good counter for Winny seeing as how its drys up your joints and is pretty tough on your liver??
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