Thread: First Cycle
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08-21-2007, 12:08 AM #1
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First Cycle
I'm not positive on the doses I'm running yet, so could use some help in that.
But just ordered 20 ml sachets of Test E and EQ
Gonna look something like this
300-400 mg Test E week 1-11(or 12)
400 mg EQ week 1-10
Nolvadex 20 mg week 1-18
Clomid 200 mg first 2 days week 14
Clomid 100 mg next 12 days
Clomid 50 mg through end
i'm 6'0", 165. 21 yrs. old. And have been lifting for around 6 or 7 years. Have began a cycle before very un-researched and was going to do a deca -only cycle, but got very sick in the middle and couldn't lift for 2 weeks and just discontinued the cycle. But I gained around 10 lbs. in the 3 weeks before getting sick so I'd say my body takes well to steroids . I'm not trying to get too big and would like to keep the cut appearance, that's why I'm going with the EQ and taking the Nolvadex to keep the water down. Maybe 15 or 20 lbs. of some solid muscle gains would be great. Just looking for some opinions here, also any recommendations on how to go about using the sachets would be great, thanks.
Diet looks something like this:
Breakfast : 5 or 6 Eggs (with lots of cheese)
mid-way 2 lunch: can of soup or sandwich (protein shake)
Lunch: Grilled Chicken and a salad
Dinner: Most likely Steak or Fish with Rice, Vegetables. Sometimes pasta
Hour After Dinner protein shake
Before bed: Salad
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08-21-2007, 12:09 AM #2
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i meant week 13 (or 14) for clomid
and through week 16 for nolvadex
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08-21-2007, 12:42 AM #3
500/500 is good for you ( 500mgs test/week 500mgs/week eq)
u look pretty lean and its ur first cycle.. u need little if not none nolvadex or clomid for your cycle. ud do fine with none. save your money
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08-21-2007, 06:44 AM #4
First, you are just a little too young. Second, you are not quite big enough, although you are totally ripped. Looking good. You should really train natural for a couple more years. That way you can get more muscle.
Just to give you an example, I am just starting my first cycle. I am not as lean as you, I probably have 5 or 6 more pounds of fat, but I am also an inch shorter and I am 35 pounds heavier.
WHAT you are eating is mostly ok, but you are going to need to eat a fair amount more to gain muscle mass. 3300 calories and 200 to 250 grams of protein or so roughly. IN addition to that, you should add some oatmeal to your breakfast and make sure you get some simple carbs post workout. I also would not eat the salad before bed. Have a casein protein shake and/or some cheese.
Then with training you need to stick with the basic compound free-weight lifts. Those are the best mass builders.
Now, in a couple years when you do your cycle, make these changes.
1, drop the EQ, all you need is test E for your first (successful) cycle. 250MG twice a week, frontload the first week with 500MG both days.
2, change nolva to arimidex .
But like I said, you're not ready yet.
There ya go, bodybuilding in a nutshell.
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08-21-2007, 09:35 AM #5
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Originally Posted by jAcKeD!!!!
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08-21-2007, 09:55 AM #6
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08-21-2007, 10:00 AM #7
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Originally Posted by jon77
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08-21-2007, 10:18 AM #8
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Originally Posted by DrHoliday
You mentioned in your first post that you thought your body took well to steroids ?? How can you possibly know this if you've never completed a cycle, or done pct. You need to read more and know exactly what your getting into. IMO...do not run clomid and nolva for pct. Pick 1....I choose nolva personally.
You need to research pct by: Anthony Roberts for more info. Your diet plan sucks. Sorry to be blunt, but it does.....I suggest this for a diet...........
Beginner's first diet, feedback appreciated If your not adhering to a strict diet such as this, and not incorporating some form of pct, you can forget about keeping any gain.........................J
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08-21-2007, 11:05 AM #9
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Run the test at 400mg a week for this cycle. Save the eq for your next cycle and don't run it less than 600mg a week for a minimum of 12 weeks. You won't get $hit out of 400mg a week for 10 weeks, trust me you'll be wasting your money. And for the love of god, eat more quality food.
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08-21-2007, 01:22 PM #10
Originally Posted by DrHoliday
I must say Jacked gets the award for worst advice EVER.
I think he is like Arnold, trying to give you the wrong advices.
PCT is important if you want to keep your gains, keep your estrogen levels from going up, get your natural test up, not be impotent for a few weeks. It prevents all kinds of nasty things that might happen. You can keep taking the arimidex and add clomid. Or you can switch to aromasin and take nolva instead of clomid. But arimidex and nolva reduce each others effectiveness so don't run those 2 together. There are even other options too.
But honestly, you need a good solid base before you take gear, save your cycle for later.
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08-21-2007, 01:25 PM #11
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Originally Posted by jon77
and again, that guy weighs 250, im not trying to go above 180.
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08-21-2007, 01:26 PM #12
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and the reason im saying they took well is because, "I gained 10 lbs. of muscle in 3 weeks"
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08-21-2007, 01:39 PM #13
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Originally Posted by DrHoliday
Keep reading........................................... ..............just.....keep reading.
Only advise I can give you now......
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08-21-2007, 01:41 PM #14
Originally Posted by DrHoliday
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08-21-2007, 02:13 PM #15
look your diet isnt terrible, it just needs improvement. Learn to take constructive criticism better. You need way more protein in your diet for starters, youre lucky if youre getting 150-175 grams/day. You have no idea what post workout nutrition is, which is the most important meal if you wanna build muscle..its right up there with breakfast. Eating a salad before bed is pointless. Look into casein protein before bed.
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08-26-2007, 07:25 PM #16
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