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    Legalizing Gear My Proposed Plan

    We all know that getting gear is hard these days, with tightened customs, lab busts, and bogus gear. I was thinking that in order to combat this problem, I propose that the creation of what I call "Sports Enhancement Clinics" Similar to anti aging clinics only these will deal strictly with enhancing athletic performance and not that general well being stuff either. Basically how I think it should work should follow like this: The patient must be at least 21 y/o to apply, you meet with a licensed professional who goes over cycle goals and dosages and gives the patient consultation along with the proper lab work to make sure all the vital organs are able to handle the cycle. After the pt. meets these criteria, waivers are signed and the patient is dispensed their cycle only enough for themselves. Now if the pt. cannot afford the entire cycle they maybe allowed to receive 2 weeks at a time or however much that pt. can afford. The medicines will all have pharmacy labels on them so they are safe for transport in a car or on airplanes. They will be made from quality labs in the USA so no more underground labs. And nobody gets locked up which is the best part of all. After the patient completes their cycle they must undergo labwork to check the status of their liver, kidneys, heart ect. This monitoring will keep the patients healthy and allow the staff to detect any problems. I came to this conclusion that we are not going away and no I do not wish for everybody to partake in this program because simply put...weightlifting isn't for everybody. This probably will flop, most likely due to the fact that there is no tax money in it for the govt. But I don't want to make sporting associations unban them thats not my aim I just get tired of these old men in congress who dont work out at all gonna tell us whats healthy and whats not thats my only beef with them.

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    great idea but will never ever work

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    Let us know when you open shop.

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    Sounds like an Amsterdam coffee shop...

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    Unfortunately aas can not be perscribed for sports enhancement

    Basic Requirements for Prescribing and Dispensing Controlled Substances

    Only practitioners who are authorized to prescribe controlled
    substances by the state in which they are licensed, are registered with
    DEA, and are acting in the usual course of their professional practice
    for a legitimate medical purpose may prescribe controlled substances.
    Pharmacies filling prescriptions for controlled substances must be
    licensed to dispense controlled substances by the state(s) in which
    they operate and also be registered with DEA. A prescription not issued
    for a legitimate medical purpose and not in the usual course of
    professional practice (or not for legitimate and authorized research)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LmbrJak
    Unfortunately aas can not be perscribed for sports enhancement

    Basic Requirements for Prescribing and Dispensing Controlled Substances

    Only practitioners who are authorized to prescribe controlled
    substances by the state in which they are licensed, are registered with
    DEA, and are acting in the usual course of their professional practice
    for a legitimate medical purpose may prescribe controlled substances.
    Pharmacies filling prescriptions for controlled substances must be
    licensed to dispense controlled substances by the state(s) in which
    they operate and also be registered with DEA. A prescription not issued
    for a legitimate medical purpose and not in the usual course of
    professional practice (or not for legitimate and authorized research)
    is not valid.




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    very true... but it's funny how many docs out there are more than willing to come to your aid and prescribe away... finding the hook up is the only difficult part

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    Ok, but I bet ya didn't know that drs also prescribe other meds for non documented purposes as well. AAS simply increase protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. Maybe not call it a sports enhancement clinic that'd seem kinda obvious tho. I couldn't really think of another name, maybe "Muscle Enhancement Clinic" would work. I mean I've seen women get testosterone cyp in the pharmacy before. They give people hormones like test and estrogen when they want a sex chance but we all want an entire body makeover so to speak. I would really like to drum up enoughs support where I could go before a congressional committee and explain this. If I couldn't at least get something passed I could maybe sway public opinion away from the usual stereotype.

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    i highly doubt any aas will be legalized for sports purposes. the only legal purpose off aas is for aids victims, burn victims, muscle degenerative diseases etc. if you want to get gear legally, find a doc to get you a script.

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    this thread needs to be moved

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysunderstudy
    Ok, but I bet ya didn't know that drs also prescribe other meds for non documented purposes as well. AAS simply increase protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. Maybe not call it a sports enhancement clinic that'd seem kinda obvious tho. I couldn't really think of another name, maybe "Muscle Enhancement Clinic" would work. I mean I've seen women get testosterone cyp in the pharmacy before. They give people hormones like test and estrogen when they want a sex chance but we all want an entire body makeover so to speak. I would really like to drum up enoughs support where I could go before a congressional committee and explain this. If I couldn't at least get something passed I could maybe sway public opinion away from the usual stereotype.

    that's why they have the name they have now...steroids are legally obtained through prescription

    good luck, you'll never have more cash than the opposition has now

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    This will never ever happen because the medical community does NOT view steroids being used as performance enhancers as a legitemate use for the substances. The legitemate use is to treat various ailments.

    Convince the medical community to add athletic enhancement to the legitemate use of steroids and just maybe you might have a chance.

    Otherwise, forget it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini
    This will never ever happen because the medical community does NOT view steroids being used as performance enhancers as a legitemate use for the substances. The legitemate use is to treat various ailments.

    Convince the medical community to add athletic enhancement to the legitemate use of steroids and just maybe you might have a chance.

    Otherwise, forget it.
    exactly. and with the scandals in pro sports the image of aas only gets worse

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    that would be great if you could set it up...

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    You seem to be trying to make sure the athlete is under professional care and adequate blood work to ensure health.

    Thats not why AAS are illegal at all. Nothing to do with health. Thats how its portrayed yes..to "save people from harming themselves"..but thats a crock of shit just like everything else Congress cooks up.

    Back in 1990 when AAS were reclassified as a control substance the AMA oppossed (and FDA and DEA) the motion. Big time lobbists for major athletic organizations didnt want to incure additional costs for supplying these drugs to their athletes and then the drumbeat of "we dont want our children to do this" snowballed into what it is today.

    "Want to keep sports legitimate and a level playing field". Hell, nobody ever says its unfair for criminal suspects and to be arrested by juicing cops. I mean why not level the playing field in law enforcement itself? Or keep corporate majors from taking Prozac to gain an edge in business. Or college students using Aderal to study for final exams "cheating" the rest of their class that didnt dope.

    If you want to get a sex change AAS will be prescribed. Now ask yourself if it was really that dangerous and people were concerned about ill effects, why would it be prescribed to a non-medically-essential situation??

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    People are such pussies about everything.

    I hate the general public.

    Fukk you, Suzy Soccer-Mom thats ignorant as fukk and doesn't know anything besides what Fox News spoon-feeds you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    People are such pussies about everything.

    I hate the general public.

    Fukk you, Suzy Soccer-Mom thats ignorant as fukk and doesn't know anything besides what Fox News spoon-feeds you.

    what you think fox news is biased

    I TOTALLY FUKIIN AGREE!!!!!

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    Amen! Vote for Ron Paul

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    I suppose its kind of a good thing though, at least the steroid subculture stays that way, i wouldnt want to walk into the gym and see every single guy there juiced up. Steroids now are (in a perfect world) for people that learn about them and take them in an educated manner

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    Quote Originally Posted by realmafia
    Vote for Ron Paul
    I'd vote for Kermit the fucking frog if he could get AAS legalized for personal use.

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    Its not just me here, I"m thinking of each and every one of you all. I mean say I could be heard out, maybe I couldn't get my plans to thru but at least the public would be better educated on the matter and it would raise some eyebrows. I agree with the above statement tho, you can go get a sex change and the drs will prescribe you hormones to go from one sex to the other and thats not for cosmetic purposes the same as we use them in this realm? Its simple people, we are run in the ground by those who think they know more than we do. I mean our society is set up to keep people healthy, look at all the drugs that have been recalled, testosterone has never ever been recalled and its been out well over 40 years I'm sure. There is no link to AAS and roid-rage, there is no link to enlarged heart, but look at some of the rx medicines that your grandma gets every month and look at the severity of the side effects and tell me which is worse. I don't applaud anybody using them w/o knowing what they're doing, everybody here on this site will quickly say otherwise. I'm just wondering how long it will be before they Schedule GH and IGF. But I think if the government should make sumthing a controlled substance it should be ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES!!!! More ppl have died, been scared for life, and beaten their spouses under its influence and there is a direct link b/w anger and alcohol, you can go to any bar on Sat. night and see that. But ironically its use and abuse is encouraged so much so, it does **** up the liver far worse than 6 weeks of dbol ever will. But I did know that when that act was passed in 1990 that the FDA and DEA did oppose it so thanx for adding that in there. I'm just here to drum up support thats all, some say yayy, and theres sum skeptics in my midst, but thats alrite.

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    Oh yeah and btw I call Fox News the George Bush News Network or the GOP National News. Cuz they love to hate on left-wing politics but didn't say shit hardly when Foley came down with his lil scandal. CNN ate that story up lemme tell ya!!! According to Fox News we are winning the war on terror and Dubya is the greatest and Gulliani is gonna win next year whoohooo!!!

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    Great idea bro. However I get this feeling the gear would become super expensive if it was legal.I'm sure insurance companies would have a field day if this passed.

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    Your probably right but then again if it were legal like that then UGL would have more liberty to make it. So in general it would be easier to acquire for everybody I think. Well if the clinic dispensed generics to patients then ins companies would charge the generic co-pay unless they know that that pharmacy is giving it to patients for cosmetic usage then they wouldn't cover it at all tho.

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    However if the clinic offered you an RX for it, then you technically could go to anywhere to get it filled international or domesic.

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    Most insurance companies dont pay for test .. I have been on HRT for over 3 years.. There are alot of compounds that are approved for HRT ..



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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysunderstudy
    Your probably right but then again if it were legal like that then UGL would have more liberty to make it. So in general it would be easier to acquire for everybody I think. Well if the clinic dispensed generics to patients then ins companies would charge the generic co-pay unless they know that that pharmacy is giving it to patients for cosmetic usage then they wouldn't cover it at all tho.

    UGL's would never make compounds for patients... There are MANY FDA approved custom compounding pharmices that make alot of the compounds for HRT..



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    Test ( all esters and suspention )
    Deca
    Anavar
    Halotestin
    GH
    Winny
    Anadrol

    Are all FDA approved meds that docs can prescribe to treat diffrent medical conditions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysunderstudy
    Ok, but I bet ya didn't know that drs also prescribe other meds for non documented purposes as well. AAS simply increase protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. Maybe not call it a sports enhancement clinic that'd seem kinda obvious tho. I couldn't really think of another name, maybe "Muscle Enhancement Clinic" would work. I mean I've seen women get testosterone cyp in the pharmacy before. They give people hormones like test and estrogen when they want a sex chance but we all want an entire body makeover so to speak. I would really like to drum up enoughs support where I could go before a congressional committee and explain this. If I couldn't at least get something passed I could maybe sway public opinion away from the usual stereotype.
    works for me....how do we go about it? we've sat idly and let our bros go to jail long enough really

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    Hey Merc, why don't you update that avie to the latest edition?
    I just want you to be en vogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysunderstudy
    Its not just me here, I"m thinking of each and every one of you all. I mean say I could be heard out, maybe I couldn't get my plans to thru but at least the public would be better educated on the matter and it would raise some eyebrows. I agree with the above statement tho, you can go get a sex change and the drs will prescribe you hormones to go from one sex to the other and thats not for cosmetic purposes the same as we use them in this realm? Its simple people, we are run in the ground by those who think they know more than we do. I mean our society is set up to keep people healthy, look at all the drugs that have been recalled, testosterone has never ever been recalled and its been out well over 40 years I'm sure. There is no link to AAS and roid-rage, there is no link to enlarged heart, but look at some of the rx medicines that your grandma gets every month and look at the severity of the side effects and tell me which is worse. I don't applaud anybody using them w/o knowing what they're doing, everybody here on this site will quickly say otherwise. I'm just wondering how long it will be before they Schedule GH and IGF. But I think if the government should make sumthing a controlled substance it should be ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES!!!! More ppl have died, been scared for life, and beaten their spouses under its influence and there is a direct link b/w anger and alcohol, you can go to any bar on Sat. night and see that. But ironically its use and abuse is encouraged so much so, it does **** up the liver far worse than 6 weeks of dbol ever will. But I did know that when that act was passed in 1990 that the FDA and DEA did oppose it so thanx for adding that in there. I'm just here to drum up support thats all, some say yayy, and theres sum skeptics in my midst, but thats alrite.
    i like this illegalizing alcohol idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32
    Hey Merc, why don't you update that avie to the latest edition?
    I just want you to be en vogue!

    http://www.amazon.com/New-Encycloped...268055-8828925


    LOL

    hahahhaha

    I had that one up yesterday.. someone said it was to dark looking... So i put that older one up...

    I cant find an avvy that i like ...



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    I see.

    Well this one gets my vote:

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    Difference between Drugs & Poisons
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    Half-lives explained
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    DNP like Chemotherapy, can be a useful poison, but both are still POISONS
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=306144


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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32
    It's not that hard to find what you want, if you search!


    http://www.clanmerc.org/

    http://www.merc-clothing.com/default_flash.asp

    Too funny...




    Tons of merc stuff hahahha


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    This vid says it all... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0LEj8IPHGU
    And the people that give gear a bad rep are fukholes like greg valentino that overuse synthol, makes gear look bad when his problem wasnt the gear... someone should shoot this guy, he's their fuking poster child..

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    and i really encourage anyone who hasnt seen that vid to watch it..

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    Shawn: Are you working out in your avy? lol.

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    no just ****ing around with a buddy.. we were lifting heavy ass rocks and trying to get them over our heads one morning on our run..

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    HI thought bout the same thing.the patients should have to reseach everything bout aas/diet/training/pct/human body(to understand how it works)most people wouldnt do this because it would be to hard to get on the (roids)then you would be left with a small bunch off prople that understand the whole process. then they could do it safer knowing what will happen to there body.Instead of getting theards like help i think i got gyno what should i do.

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