How to get ripped?

**snoogans** · 10-18-2007, 08:37 PM

im 5'7" and like im saying i don't know how it is for people who are fat, im not fat and never was... it was just a question, if you were born knowing it all then you're a cool guy i guess...

**Renesis** · 10-18-2007, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by 1819

ignorant? spend a few years on the forum and know who you are talking to. maybe check my profile.

Personally I don't care who you are. Your *REP* on this forum means nothing to me. Im guessing you do some sort of fighting so then that makes you totally different. You take your average 185lber and a 150lber but that 150lber can fight then that 185lber is gonna lose. The way you spoke though was ignorant because you give no backing other than talking smack.
And I will give you your example "i'll use someone your size, zab judah, as an example. he also is a friend of mine so this is not hearsay. i'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that zab hits just a little harder than you. correct me if you think otherwise. now, at 185 and me not being a professional boxer, i can take just about all he has. in a street fight he would be killed. he can throw the first 6 or 8 punches. not gonna help him"

I don't weigh as much as they do, but I will tell you this. I myself do fighting as well and if you honestly think you can take 6-8 good hits to the head from me your outta your mind, much less a professional boxer.

**mickdiesel** · 10-18-2007, 10:19 PM

if ur 5'7" then ur itty bitty. 5'5" and 5'7" are a lot different. those two inches usually mean a few inches in the shoulders, normal pants size and room in ur torso for 175lbs. I'm personally 5'7" and didn't touch juice til I was 215 an 12%. now I'm 242lbs and 14%. u shouldn't be touching juice if u have that much more potential naturally. ur boy I'd he's even the lower 20% he's gonna blow up and become a fat, lactating mess. more fat is more estrogen, is more bloat, is higher potential for gyno, is more acne, is ****ed. no good. get bigger jeans and fill em out tiny

**snoogans** · 10-18-2007, 10:51 PM

well personaly i think you being 242lbs, you must look like a fcking bulldog... not my style lol... Even being at 215lbs when you 1st started juice you must've been looking like one... Im not trying to say anything bad by that but i am saying that's not what i wanna look like..And you're probly right , i can probly go up alot more in weight naturally but i wanna be around 180-190lbs i can do that naturally but how long will that take?? And being 180-190lbs naturally and on roids makes a big differnce in strength also i believe, correct me if im wrong...

**snoogans** · 10-18-2007, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Renesis

Personally I don't care who you are. Your *REP* on this forum means nothing to me. Im guessing you do some sort of fighting so then that makes you totally different. You take your average 185lber and a 150lber but that 150lber can fight then that 185lber is gonna lose. The way you spoke though was ignorant because you give no backing other than talking smack.
And I will give you your example "i'll use someone your size, zab judah, as an example. he also is a friend of mine so this is not hearsay. i'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that zab hits just a little harder than you. correct me if you think otherwise. now, at 185 and me not being a professional boxer, i can take just about all he has. in a street fight he would be killed. he can throw the first 6 or 8 punches. not gonna help him"

I don't weigh as much as they do, but I will tell you this. I myself do fighting as well and if you honestly think you can take 6-8 good hits to the head from me your outta your mind, much less a professional boxer.

My point exactly...

**1819** · 10-19-2007, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Renesis

Personally I don't care who you are. Your *REP* on this forum means nothing to me. Im guessing you do some sort of fighting so then that makes you totally different. You take your average 185lber and a 150lber but that 150lber can fight then that 185lber is gonna lose. The way you spoke though was ignorant because you give no backing other than talking smack.
And I will give you your example "i'll use someone your size, zab judah, as an example. he also is a friend of mine so this is not hearsay. i'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that zab hits just a little harder than you. correct me if you think otherwise. now, at 185 and me not being a professional boxer, i can take just about all he has. in a street fight he would be killed. he can throw the first 6 or 8 punches. not gonna help him"

I don't weigh as much as they do, but I will tell you this. I myself do fighting as well and if you honestly think you can take 6-8 good hits to the head from me your outta your mind, much less a professional boxer.

i am not putting you down but at 5'6'' 135 you could not hit hard enough to do any damage, in a real fight, that is a fact. all you kids watch ufc, take a few judo classes and think you guys can take on the world. if that were the case i wuld surely know your name and you would be working for me making a ton of money. now if you want to talk about the guys at 54 and up then you have an agruement. the guys starting at 54 and higher can hit hard and fast enough to start doing damage to larger men. no doubt. we were not talking about a ring environment. a guy like zab would surely destroy me in a ring as i do not have the skills to defend myself in there. simple physics do not allow certain things. i know 200 lb guys that you could hit with a bat. do you really think a couple punches from a 148 lb man are gonna hurt? there are exceptions to everything, but the average joe, no matter how well trained had better watch who they're messin with. look at wbo heavyweight sultan ibrogimov. if you saw him in a bar would you think he was the champion of the world? he doesnt even look like an athlete. i can assure you though, there is a very small % of the entire population that could throw anything at him and hurt him. especially someone at 148. i understand some things are not believable, i understand things are hard to swallow but there are things that are complete truths and i have been in the business a long time. i'm not talking down to anyone. i tell it like it is.

**mr newbreed** · 10-19-2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by 1819

i am not putting you down but at 5'6'' 135 you could not hit hard enough to do any damage, in a real fight, that is a fact. all you kids watch ufc, take a few judo classes and think you guys can take on the world. if that were the case i wuld surely know your name and you would be working for me making a ton of money. now if you want to talk about the guys at 54 and up then you have an agruement. the guys starting at 54 and higher can hit hard and fast enough to start doing damage to larger men. no doubt. we were not talking about a ring environment. a guy like zab would surely destroy me in a ring as i do not have the skills to defend myself in there. simple physics do not allow certain things. i know 200 lb guys that you could hit with a bat. do you really think a couple punches from a 148 lb man are gonna hurt? there are exceptions to everything, but the average joe, no matter how well trained had better watch who they're messin with. look at wbo heavyweight sultan ibrogimov. if you saw him in a bar would you think he was the champion of the world? he doesnt even look like an athlete. i can assure you though, there is a very small % of the entire population that could throw anything at him and hurt him. especially someone at 148. i understand some things are not believable, i understand things are hard to swallow but there are things that are complete truths and i have been in the business a long time. i'm not talking down to anyone. i tell it like it is.

I totaly agree,you would just not have the punching power to do any damage,so while you are throwing your many hand shots,you get caught with 1 and go to sleep,its that simple..theres a reason there is a weight class in all full contact sports and thats it...you aint big enough to deliver that nockout shot...nothing against you but ive seen it many times and the end result is the always the same,the smaller man goes to sleep

**Kratos** · 10-19-2007, 01:20 PM

snoogans I really don't have a problem with you, I was just having some fun. But, in the next few years when you are out at parties or in a bar don't try to fight people bigger than you. It will end poorly for you. I'm not some big roid dude like you might think, I'm more into endurance sports. I'm 6'3'' 250-255 and even though you might think that makes you look like a bulldog it really doesn't look that big at all at that height. I just look tall and thin. Someone picked a fight with me in a bar earlier this year, and I broke his face in 3 places. You may be a very good fighter for your size, but there is a reason for weight class. Just be careful dude.

**snoogans** · 10-19-2007, 02:29 PM

You would look fine at 6"3" 255 but i was talking about MickDiesel, he said he was 5'7" 242lbs, i think he would look like a bulldog, that is stocky as fuk for 5'7"... And i really don't care about all that fight shit, it's not something i go around looking to do, but my point is if the time comes me being 5'7" 148lbs isn't going to matter to me, ill go at it with who ever, but i don't look for problems i hate beef.....

**AandF6969** · 10-19-2007, 02:33 PM

If that fat bastard does a cycle he'll probably have a heart attack.

**snoogans** · 10-19-2007, 02:48 PM

Let him have a heart attack then, it's not your problem, why are you worried about it??

**AandF6969** · 10-19-2007, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by snoogans

Let him have a heart attack then, it's not your problem, why are you worried about it??

I'm not worried about it... I don't really care. I just thought you'd like to know.

**snoogans** · 10-19-2007, 02:55 PM

I already know, alot of people warned me not to let him do a cycle yet, that he needs diet and cardio first, you're about 90 posts too late....

**Ashop** · 10-19-2007, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by snoogans

This is for a friend of mine; He's about 5' 9" 212lbs and about 20-30% bodyfat, what kind of cycle would be good for him to burn the fat and yet gain strength...?? Thanks in advance...

he needs to DIET AND CARDIO 1st

**Kratos** · 10-19-2007, 03:04 PM

Put him on letro if you are going to throw caution to the wind and have him do a cycle (which is not what he needs but you arn't listening to that so I will stop saying it). It's funny how a set of knockers can come between friends. He will likely be prone to gyno at high body fat.

**snoogans** · 10-19-2007, 03:11 PM

i know, he's going to do cardio and diet before a cycle, we've established this... i am listening...

**Renesis** · 10-19-2007, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by 1819

i am not putting you down but at 5'6'' 135 you could not hit hard enough to do any damage, in a real fight, that is a fact. all you kids watch ufc, take a few judo classes and think you guys can take on the world. if that were the case i wuld surely know your name and you would be working for me making a ton of money. now if you want to talk about the guys at 54 and up then you have an agruement. the guys starting at 54 and higher can hit hard and fast enough to start doing damage to larger men. no doubt. we were not talking about a ring environment. a guy like zab would surely destroy me in a ring as i do not have the skills to defend myself in there. simple physics do not allow certain things. i know 200 lb guys that you could hit with a bat. do you really think a couple punches from a 148 lb man are gonna hurt? there are exceptions to everything, but the average joe, no matter how well trained had better watch who they're messin with. look at wbo heavyweight sultan ibrogimov. if you saw him in a bar would you think he was the champion of the world? he doesnt even look like an athlete. i can assure you though, there is a very small % of the entire population that could throw anything at him and hurt him. especially someone at 148. i understand some things are not believable, i understand things are hard to swallow but there are things that are complete truths and i have been in the business a long time. i'm not talking down to anyone. i tell it like it is.

Honestly I never said I thought I could knockout anyone. Most of my friends range within the 160-200lb weight category and there isn't one I couldn't knockout. No of course not I couldn't do much damage right now at my current weight, but that is my soccer season weight. Offseason I sit at 155lbs which is a considerable difference. Anyway don't go thinking that I believe in my head I could destroy someone over 200lbs that just isn't realistic. But against your average joe lighter than 200 lbs, I most likely won't lose. Anyway I let it go as there really is no point in going on with this arguement.

**Mr Burns** · 10-19-2007, 08:54 PM

Yeah!

**NOZ** · 10-20-2007, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by AandF6969

If that fat bastard does a cycle he'll probably have a heart attack.

looooooooooooool

**pr0digy9daniel** · 10-20-2007, 04:21 PM

Ok, at 30% BF first he should diet as much as he can... I wouldnt recommend AAS, but I would ask him to research clen and T3... Now its not nessasary to use that, alternatives like caffeine, ephedra, herbal suppliments, vitamins, fat burners, tea, grapefruit juice, can be used. But he basically needs to get as much fat off, and steroids wont do much for him if hes trying to diet as if hes losing weigh, as steroids make you gain weight only if you eat enough. If he runs T3, I would recommend a small dose of test however, to stop muscle wasting, like 100mg/week... Once he gets his BF down to 15 - 20% its alot better. Im at 14% BF atm, and im trying to cut it down as low as possible, but I weigh much less than him...

**B.E.N.** · 10-24-2007, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by snoogans

Look i don't appreciate the disrespect... Are you saying all he can do is sit around and eat?! He exercises plenty, lifts 4 times a week and believe it or not doesn't eat fast food! I believe it's all about jeans, om 148lbs 7% bf and all i used to eat was fast food and fat foods all day and i never once worked out abs and i have a six pack alot of people say i don't deserve cuz i don't work for it... He just doesn't have time for cardio because he goes to school twice a day and only has about 2 hours the most to work out and most of you know that's barely enough time to lift properly... So think before you judge somebody...

Hmmm...only has about 2 hours? Seems like plenty of time to me...what was the problem again? Most of you know that 2 hours is barely enough time to lift properly?!

Guess I need to go back to the drawing board on my routine...