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    Elevated liver function while on clen?

    Can clen elevate liver function? Just got results from bloodwork (taken 11/1)...elevated liver function. The only thing I have been taking is clen, hrt dose of test cyp
    (200mg/2wks), arginine, taurine, potassium, multi-vitamin. Doc wants me back in 2 wks for more bloodwork.

    My second question is : with my last injection of cyp I also ran 200mg Deca . Now this was AFTER bloodwork had been done. Should I drop the Deca before next blood test. This was first shot of deca.

    Thanks for the help.

    PS This is first bloodwork after running this cycle that I stopped on 9/14.

    Sust 500 mg/ wk
    deca 400 mg/ wk
    d-bol 50 mg/ ed for 5 weeks
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    any vets have any ideas?

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    really need some advice here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_jack34 View Post
    Can clen elevate liver function?
    DEFINITELY!!!
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    thx....will start tapering off clen .

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    DEFINITELY!!!
    If this is the case, would it be wise to run some sort of liver protectant while on Clen ?

    Or will it decrease the effectiveness of Clen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY_WD View Post
    If this is the case, would it be wise to run some sort of liver protectant while on Clen ?

    Or will it decrease the effectiveness of Clen?
    Clen has been conclusively shown to collect in various organs including the liver, most notably causing food poisoning by those who erroneously consume this most toxic organ of any animal's body. So technically speaking, a liver protector/cleanser would be of benefit. Furthermore, any such protectant wouldn't impact absorption because it'll only remove those residues normally trapped by the liver.
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    Which values do you have elevated?

    AST and ALT are normally elevated in someone performing high intensity resistence training, because of muscle breakdown. Check your CpK, if its elevated muscle breakdown is the cause for you elevated values.

    If your GGT is elevated also, that is a clear sign of liver damage so tappering down and running som liver protection would be wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva View Post
    Which values do you have elevated?

    AST and ALT are normally elevated in someone performing high intensity resistence training, because of muscle breakdown. Check your CpK, if its elevated muscle breakdown is the cause for you elevated values.

    If your GGT is elevated also, that is a clear sign of liver damage so tappering down and running som liver protection would be wise.

    AST(SGOT) 50
    ALT(SGPT) 60

    Is cpk and ggt listed as something else? Because I don't see it on the results.

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    CpK - creatine phosphokinase

    GGT - gama-glutamiltransferase

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    I really don't think those values are listed on my results. But here is everything under the metabolic panel.

    sodium 138
    chloride 103
    potassium 3.9
    co2 23
    bun 16
    calcium 9.6
    creatinine 1.1
    glucose 93
    protein, total 7.4
    ast 50
    alt 60
    albumin 4.6
    alkaline phosphatase 54
    bilirubin, total 0.6
    anion gap 15.9
    osmolality 287
    bun/creatinine ration 14.5
    globulin 2.8
    a/g ratio 1.6

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