Thread: Massive Bulking Without 19nors
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11-14-2007, 09:01 PM #1
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Massive Bulking Without 19nors
so after losing 30lbs to a bad case of mono im ready for my next cycle.i was wondering some opinions on what u guys thought would put the most mass on me possible.problem is after running tren with major dick issues im scared to death to try deca or any other 19nor which seems to be my best bet for bulking.i know everything is in the diet but what other compounds do u guys recommend for gaining and holding gains without dick issues.obviously il be stacking a minimum of 500mg of test e with whatever else i use.i was thinking of kickstarting with dbol so dbol and test are going to be the main two but really wanted another bulking compound if possible.
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11-14-2007, 09:04 PM #2
Testosterone for sure. And did you run test with your tren cycle before? Dick issues are always due to no test being used. You can easily have avoided that by throwing some testosterone into your cycle.
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11-14-2007, 09:09 PM #3
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test and bromo or caber
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11-14-2007, 09:14 PM #4
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11-14-2007, 09:18 PM #5
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did bromo is enough while using deca ? beacause i heard caber cause many side effects..
and do we need bromo with EQ?
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11-14-2007, 09:19 PM #6
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i used deca with susta, and no pb. thats good but i think EQ is better
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11-14-2007, 09:21 PM #7
If you want to be on the safe side while running a 19nor:
- run test along with it
- end the 19nor a couple of weeks sooner than your test
- an AI is essencial (i prefer letro)
- caber/ bromo to avoid prolactin issues.
Caber is should not be dangerous at the dosages we run it.
No, you don't need caber with eq.
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11-14-2007, 09:24 PM #8
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thanks hugovsilva, what letro have better than arimidex (price and what else?)
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11-14-2007, 09:26 PM #9
Letro is stronger so you should adapt you dosage. But i like letro speciffically for 19nors as it decreases the PgR in breast tissue reducing chances for gyno.
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11-14-2007, 09:27 PM #10
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I meant for his last cycle he said it included tren .
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11-14-2007, 09:29 PM #11
I thought you were recomending a cycle of test with caber/bromo.
My bad.
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11-14-2007, 09:57 PM #12
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its all good bro
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11-15-2007, 03:50 PM #13
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hey.yeah i def added test with tren .i was using 100mg a day or prob and 50mg tren.but then i bumped that to 75mg too which i think gave me the issues.im guessing i shouldve kept the test almost twice as high but at 700mg a week of test anymore wouldve been to much.my dick hasnt been working right for almost 2 1/2 months.its just now getting back to normal.my libido was just gone and i couldnt keep wood while banging.it just sucks.thats why im worried about deca although i know thatd be my best weight gainer
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11-15-2007, 09:52 PM #14
If you lost 30 lbs from mono why not try to get some of that weight back? Then hop on a cycle, isnt the point everyone stresses over and over to reach full potential and then supplement with something to go beyond? you are 30lbs lighter than what you know you could be..
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11-16-2007, 04:43 PM #15
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yeah i know thats what im going to do.im already putting back some of it back but once i get closer to my desired weight is when il start.im a hardgainer as it is but i know i gotta eat eat eat to get some weight on me first.my real main question though is deciding what i wanna stack my test and dbol with in order to make some nice gains without having any dick issues whatsoever
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