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    Need a little help!

    Ok heres the deal. Im a personal trainer 6'3 in between 200 and 205. Im trying to get stronger and lose body fat and get a little cut but I dont want to just be huge because I play sports! I have taken a cycle of deca and 2 cycles of winstrol before. Here is the cycle I am going to start and just want some in put on it!!

    Im going to run this 10-12 weeks
    Either Test E or C 250/week
    with deca 150-300/week

    The real question is the anit E's! I have never taken any before and dont really know what runs well with either of these 2. Im guessing i should run some anti E during and after the cycle. Let me know i need some feedback!!!

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    Hey dude! Everyone I know this guy hes local to me hes a good guy!

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    anti E is more preventative measure if taken during cycle. you would only need it if you are prone to Estrogenic sides, though many people take them any way as a just in case measure.

    I would also bump test to 400mg EW for at least 12 weeks as test E is a long acting esther which takes some time to get goinb effectively in your system.. ever considered frontloading?

    The deca I would run at at least 250mg/EW and both of those numbers are conservative and will not make you HUGE but are considered to be a bulking-type cycle the way you have it planned.

    If you want cut, switch deca for winstrol for 8 weeks with 12+ weeks of test E. use teh winstrol starting week 3.5-4 so you finish same time and get maximum benefit IMO. Though I frequently see winstrol recommended at front of cycle with only test at the end.. I like it the other way around.

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    i know nolva shouldnt be used while on deca .. i forget why exactly but its cause of it helps promote gyno i think.. i personally like armidex for my anti e

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    bump

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    heres a thread which describes what AI's and SERMs are, and how they work.

    SERM/AI Definition

    study up on that, so you understand why / which and when to take them.

    but also read this thread by merc on why its important not to strip all estrogen out of ya system.

    Estrogen Will It Effect My Gains

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    yup thats why I dont like taking an anti e untill i see problems start up. and of course for pct.

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    At those dose you wont need anti e's. Plus if I remember correctly anti e's won't have any benefit against deca induced sides.

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