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    Need a little help!

    Ok heres the deal. Im a personal trainer 6'3 in between 200 and 205. Im trying to get stronger and lose body fat and get a little cut but I dont want to just be huge because I play sports! I have taken a cycle of deca and 2 cycles of winstrol before. Here is the cycle I am going to start and just want some in put on it!!

    Im going to run this 10-12 weeks
    Either Test E or C 250/week
    with deca 150-300/week

    The real question is the anit E's! I have never taken any before and dont really know what runs well with either of these 2. Im guessing i should run some anti E during and after the cycle. Let me know i need some feedback!!!

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    Hey dude! Everyone I know this guy hes local to me hes a good guy!

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    anti E is more preventative measure if taken during cycle. you would only need it if you are prone to Estrogenic sides, though many people take them any way as a just in case measure.

    I would also bump test to 400mg EW for at least 12 weeks as test E is a long acting esther which takes some time to get goinb effectively in your system.. ever considered frontloading?

    The deca I would run at at least 250mg/EW and both of those numbers are conservative and will not make you HUGE but are considered to be a bulking-type cycle the way you have it planned.

    If you want cut, switch deca for winstrol for 8 weeks with 12+ weeks of test E. use teh winstrol starting week 3.5-4 so you finish same time and get maximum benefit IMO. Though I frequently see winstrol recommended at front of cycle with only test at the end.. I like it the other way around.

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    i know nolva shouldnt be used while on deca.. i forget why exactly but its cause of it helps promote gyno i think.. i personally like armidex for my anti e

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    bump

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    heres a thread which describes what AI's and SERMs are, and how they work.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545

    study up on that, so you understand why / which and when to take them.

    but also read this thread by merc on why its important not to strip all estrogen out of ya system.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=319202

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    yup thats why I dont like taking an anti e untill i see problems start up. and of course for pct.

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    At those dose you wont need anti e's. Plus if I remember correctly anti e's won't have any benefit against deca induced sides.

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