ok let me say this is my 8 or 10th cycle, but the second one in 14 months, i started this one with 500 mg of test enth, for 6 weeks, now a week ago i added in another 250 mg so now im up to 750, in addition ive added 600 mg of masteron propinate ive taken 3cc 3 times and everyone is swole up pretty bad the first one has started to get better ., its red and hard and yes i have been thru this before , but not to this degree. im also taking eca, aderrall, wellbutrin, accutane, t3, letro letro in low dose , last 4 times i worked out my joints and eeven 12 hours after i worked out my knees and elbows i just ached bad pretty sure its not virgin muscle cause ive shot these areas many times, my injection procedure and shot procedure is better than a dr , the one thing i did realize is because im try to use a 23g needle to shoot my hand moves the needle around trying to get the gear in the muscle. thanks i know you guys will have many differnet things i can try