I have access to an NMR machine to check the contents of anabolic and PCT medication

[Nstart]

Today, low and behold I had lunch with a very close friend of mine who is doing his PHD in chemistry. We started talking about anabolics and how he would like to start on them but has been unable to find a source.

He told me that before he did he wants to test the compounds of everything he would take. This means all the anabolics, the PCT and whatnot using a nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy.

Since I only have access to one lab, and the stuff from AR-R . I asked him if he could test everything I use/plan on using. He told me these machines are the standard of the industry, and in only a couple of minutes can give me great detail about whatever compound is tested. Such as the strength, chemical, purity, what dangerous toxins are in there and whatever else I want.

The machine can use 1 drop, but it will not be very accurate. He said for the best results, 1ML of each is required and will be tested twice.

These are the anabolics I have on hand.

Sust
Prop
Deca

From AR-R:
Clomid
Nolva
Liquidex
T3
Clen
Keto

Neither of us knows exactly what to test for, so he asked me to ask you guys. He told me that the basics should be checked for is chemical, electronic, physical and structural data. This will check for what the drug actually is, and other compounds reside, and their relative quantity to the rest of the compounds in there.

What else should I ask for? There are a lot of tests that could be run. He said the most detailed tests could be run, but they provide so much information that it is often times difficult to find exactly what you are looking for. Also, when I get these results back, can I scan and post the printouts on here along with the name of the lab? I know lab names are not to be printed, but what can be mentioned in it's place so people know the lab name I am talking about?

[bmit]

go for it

[dedic8ed1]

You bastardI envy you.

[VR4]

somebody answer this mans question.
I really want to see the results.

[lovbyts]

Cant you google it like you do peptides? I'm not sure if this is any help but...

Sustanon 250®
17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one
Testosterone base + 4 different esters
Propionate , Phenylpropionate, Isocaproate, Decanoate
Formula (base): C27 H40 O3
Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
Molecular Weight, Esters:
Propionate: 362.5082
Phenylpropionate: 438.6058
Isocaproate: 404.5886
Decanoate: 460.6958
Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
Melting Point (base): 155
Manufacturer: Organon
Effective Dose (Men): 500-2000mg/ week
Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
Active life: Up to 3 weeks
Detection Time: 3+ months
Anabolic /Androgenic ratio:100/100


Testosterone Propionate
Chemical = Formula = Molecular Weight = Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg

Deca Information
(Nandrolone Base + Decanoate Ester)
[19-nor-androst-4-en-3-one-17beta-ol]
Molecular Weight(base):274.4022
Molecular Weight (ester):172.2668
Formula (base): C18 H26 O2
Formula (ester):C10 H20 O2
Melting Point (base): 122-124°C
Melting Point (ester):31 - 32 C
Manufacturer: Organon
Release Date (in USA): 1962
Effective Dose (Men): 200-600mgs/week (2mg/lb of Bodyweight)
Effective Dose (Women): 50-100mgs/week
Active life: 15 days
Detection Time: Up to 18 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 125:37

[lovbyts]

T3 has a molecular weight of 651 daltons and contains 58 percent iodine. The majority of serum T3 is derived enzymatically from 5’-deiodination of T4

[Kale]

Cant wait to see whats in the AR-R stuff !!!

[Nstart]

Thank you lovbyts! I printed out what you provided me and I will how this to him.

If anyone else has anything else to add, please do.

[gixxerboy1]

from what i understand he will need a standard to test it agianst

[gixxerboy1]

Cant wait to see whats in the AR-R stuff !!!

lol should be very interesting

[Nstart]

from what i understand he will need a standard to test it agianst

He did not make any mention of this. I will ask.

[Nickster#1]

Today, low and behold I had lunch with a very close friend of mine who is doing his PHD in chemistry. We started talking about anabolics and how he would like to start on them but has been unable to find a source.

He told me that before he did he wants to test the compounds of everything he would take. This means all the anabolics, the PCT and whatnot using a nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy.

Since I only have access to one lab, and the stuff from AR-R . I asked him if he could test everything I use/plan on using. He told me these machines are the standard of the industry, and in only a couple of minutes can give me great detail about whatever compound is tested. Such as the strength, chemical, purity, what dangerous toxins are in there and whatever else I want.

The machine can use 1 drop, but it will not be very accurate. He said for the best results, 1ML of each is required and will be tested twice.

These are the anabolics I have on hand.

Sust
Prop
Deca

From AR-R:
Clomid
Nolva
Liquidex
T3
Clen
Keto

Neither of us knows exactly what to test for, so he asked me to ask you guys. He told me that the basics should be checked for is chemical, electronic, physical and structural data. This will check for what the drug actually is, and other compounds reside, and their relative quantity to the rest of the compounds in there.

What else should I ask for? There are a lot of tests that could be run. He said the most detailed tests could be run, but they provide so much information that it is often times difficult to find exactly what you are looking for. Also, when I get these results back, can I scan and post the printouts on here along with the name of the lab? I know lab names are not to be printed, but what can be mentioned in it's place so people know the lab name I am talking about?

(Oxymetholone)
[17 beta-hydroxy-2-hydroxymethylene-17 alpha-methyl-5 alpha-androstan-3-one]
Molecular Weight: 332.482
Molecular Formula: C 21 H 32 O 3
Melting Point: 178-180C
Manufacturer: Syntex (Originally)
Release Date: 1960
Effective Dose: 100mgs (optimal)
Active Life: <16hours
Detection Time: up to 8 weeks
Androgenic : Anabolic Ratio: 45:320

(Oxandrolone)
[17b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-2-oxa-5a-androstane-3-one]
Molecular Weight: 306.4442
Formula: C19H30O3
Melting Point: 235 – 238 Celcius
Manufacturer: BTG, SPA, Originally Searle (1964)
Effective dose: (Men)20-100mgs/day (or .125mg/kg~bdywt); (Women) 2.5-20mgs.day
Active Life: 8-12 hours
Detection Time: 3 weeks
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 322-630:24

(Testosterone + Undecanoate ester)
[androsta-4-en-3-one,17b-ol]
Molecular weight of base: 288.429
Molecular weight of ester: 186.2936
Formula: C19 H28 O2
Melting Point: 155
Manufacturer: Organon
Effective dose: 600mgs
Active Life: less than 8-12 hours
Detection Time: 4-5 weeks
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio (Range): 100:100

I guess I can keep on copying and pasting this info, but everything I think your asking for is in the steroid profile sticky on this board from Anthony Roberts.
Good luck bro. Keep us posted on this.

[RANA]

WOW, I can't wait to see the results

[yellowledbetter]

Man i would love to see the results for ARR T3 and Clen .

[Nstart]

Just found out some more info.

He cannot perform any of these test until June 1st. The lab is closed off for cleaning and maintenance since it is the end of the semester.

[james21]

OMG no kidding id like to see whats in some lions stuff

[Lemonada8]

Thats Amazing, thats like the best way to tell what shit is... thats AWESOME... thank god i'm done with chem tho... orgo sucked!

[Lemonada8]

well.. u can talk to the lab and see what they say they put in it... like benzyl benzoate and benzyl alcohol, and what kind of oil.... then compare that to what you get.... that should work pretty good...

[thegodfather]

I'd really be interested to see him test for the presence of pyrogens, bacteria, and etc. Any human grade substances are supposed to be produced in an enviroment that has less than 100 particulates per cubic meter of air space. So it'd be very interested to see the amount of contaminants in these substances.

[personaltrainermark]

Keep us updated. I'd be interested to see if any of them come out to be full strength.

[lex57]

I'd really be interested to see him test for the presence of pyrogens, bacteria, and etc. Any human grade substances are supposed to be produced in an enviroment that has less than 100 particulates per cubic meter of air space. So it'd be very interested to see the amount of contaminants in these substances.

for bacteria you could just use an agar petri dish and streak out the gear in question. no need for the machine for that.

[thegodfather]

for bacteria you could just use an agar petri dish and streak out the gear in question. no need for the machine for that.

Assuming the BA and BB didnt kill it...

[Nickster#1]

Assuming the BA and BB didnt kill it...

And there would be your answer, a bunch of dead bacteria with no flora to survive in.............and if we are talking about any compounds produced by AR-R , our sponsor, read the disclaimer you click on before entering their site. And all over theirs and other sites that claim to sell products such as ancilliaries and peptides, "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" will be posted with these productucts as it is illegal to sell them for any purpose other than research. And we all love our research, dont we????

[dirtball_619]

I wonder if lion is shitting himself right now or if hes confident his products will pass with flying colors.

[lex57]

lion has nothing to be concerned about. there will be no testing done, i have a feeling. even if there was lions products have always been good to go.

[Nstart]

No Lex, testing WILL be done. I will without a doubt upload the results before mid June 2008.

I've used his products to and they do work very well. I figured I might as well test them since I can.

[thegodfather]

No Lex, testing WILL be done. I will without a doubt upload the results before mid June 2008.

I've used his products to and they do work very well. I figured I might as well test them since I can.

You are putting university equipment to good use my friend.. Lol

[yellowledbetter]

Hey how bout those results!!!!!!!!!!!1

[VR4]

nothing yet?

[wukillabee]

No Lex, testing WILL be done. I will without a doubt upload the results before mid June 2008.

I've used his products to and they do work very well. I figured I might as well test them since I can.

Mid June huh? Its gonna be the 4th of July tomorrow. Oh well, nice thought though.

[lex57]

Mid June huh? Its gonna be the 4th of July tomorrow. Oh well, nice thought though.

i've been wanting to bump this thread for a while now. but what kind of guy toots his own horn me of course. toot toot toot! but i am sure some lame excuse will ensue. nice call though wukillabee.

[PT]

i've been wanting to bump this thread for a while now. but what kind of guy toots his own horn me of course. toot toot toot! but i am sure some lame excuse will ensue. nice call though wukillabee.

i was waiting for his reply on this as well and i kinda knew it wasnt going to happen

[Deen54]

I totally forgot about this thread...I'm interested in seeing those
results.
It's July 4 ..You said mid June so testing should be finished and your
report is now due.

What are the findings?

[N*E*R*D]

liar liar liar . joking

[lex57]

i was waiting for his reply on this as well and i kinda knew it wasnt going to happen

the blue looks good on you by the way. and i like the new avvy as well. that was a sweet movie.

[MuscleScience]

I knew it wasnt going to happen or not likely. When you run anything through NMR or Mass Spec for that matter. The computer data logs what compound went through the machine. If someone went looking through there and knew there stereo chemistry they would wonder why the hell all these compounds were being ran through the machine.

[lex57]

I knew it wasnt going to happen or not likely. When you run anything through NMR or Mass Spec for that matter. The computer data logs what compound went through the machine. If someone went looking through there and knew there stereo chemistry they would wonder why the hell all these compounds were being ran through the machine.

exactly.....like someone is going to jeopardize their job or what not so he can test some gear and chems. i never thought so.

[40plusnewbie]

Test the estrogen solubizer and find out exactly all you can about it.

[lex57]

Test the estrogen solubizer and find out exactly all you can about it.

i think you may be confused.

[T_Own]

exactly.....like someone is going to jeopardize their job or what not so he can test some gear and chems. i never thought so.

but of all the reasons to get fired, that one would be one of the better =p
but good call on it not happening haha