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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Because most of the top IFBB's, atleast top 8 in the Olympia, tend to stay relatively lean throughout the year, how would you say they use this priming method? After various shows? GH use?
    The top IFBB's will use this in a different way to the guys on here, you have to remember they are comping and are in this depleted state many times so they can just rebound of that, alot of people on here and other boards dont even contest so there priming is slightly different to the contest guys, everybody is different and the exact protocol will change depending on the circumstances of the indivdual, but getting in that depleted state is a must but holding onto muscle tissue is also a key area to develope with pre-cycle priming.

    Try it and see, i promise you ! you wont go back to the standard way of cycling again.

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    im giving it a shot now the priming is tough the first week but as everything if you want it you do it.

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    hmmm. I was planning a 16 weeker for my next cycle but now im considering a couple shorter ones instead.

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    give it a shot, just make sure you do all of your reasearch before you do it. As Markus has stated numerous times priming is the key to sucess with this.

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    guys i have a quick question. im planning on doing a 6 weeker of prop and would like to take something for vasularity. I know one of the main purposes of a 6 weeker is to recover faster so thats why Im not sure if Tren A would be a good fit and EQ is a long ester. What have you guys used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle View Post
    I've ran countless 6 week cycles, but I only experimented with one HIGH DOSE burst.

    I really don't want to post the doses of that cycle. I don't want to give any young readers bright ideas that WILL cause them harm.
    Lets say it was well over 5g weekly.
    could you please give us an example cycle, not one that you have ran personally, just an example of an effective short burst cycle, that would be affective for lean mass not bloat mass lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1115 View Post
    could you please give us an example cycle, not one that you have ran personally, just an example of an effective short burst cycle, that would be affective for lean mass not bloat mass lol
    From what Marcus advised me to do for a first short burst cycle.

    Prime first then:

    wk 1-4 Test Prop 150-200mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Winstrol 50-75mg/ED

    OR

    wk 1-4 Test Prop 150-200mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED

    They were the options I narrowed it down too.

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    what compound would you guys use for vascularity on a 6 week burst cycle?

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    im gonna try a 6 weeker for my next one. im thinking something like:
    test prop-150 ed
    mast-100 ed
    or
    test prop-150 ed
    drol-100 ed

    i would like to run winny but ive had joint problems so im kinda leaning towards mast instead as it will give similar results without the joint pain. any input as to changes i could make would be appreciated.

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    how would this work as a short burst cycle ?
    1-5 Test Propinate 200 mg/eod = 800mg/w {never gone over 500 mg/w with test so}
    1-4 Dianabol 30mg/d

    diet will be as follows:
    Cals= 2000
    Pro= 40%
    Carbs= 30%
    Fats 30%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1115 View Post
    how would this work as a short burst cycle ?
    1-5 Test Propinate 200 mg/eod = 800mg/w {never gone over 500 mg/w with test so}
    1-4 Dianabol 30mg/d

    diet will be as follows:
    Cals= 2000
    Pro= 40%
    Carbs= 30%
    Fats 30%
    what are your previous stats? prev cycles? etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eljugo16 View Post
    pinnacle thanks a lot bro this is exactly what i was looking for... im mid cycle right now but will def give this a shot on next. Is your pct the same length as a regular cycle?
    Is there an answer re this question about pct? I'm thinking of starting a 4 week cycle and wondered myself but can't find any info specific to short length cycles and pct.

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    compounds used are Test enth, Eq and Dianabol

    looking for an example short burst cycles of a cutter, bulker and lean bulker lol
    please include only these compounds, all forms of test, tren , dbol , deca , eq, anavar , clen , t3 and masteron {only ones i wood ever use lol}

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    all right fellas this is the final verdict of what i will do for a 6 week short bursy cycle.

    test prop: 1400mg/week weeks 1-6
    anavar : 100mg/ED weeks 1-6

    im debating whether i want to add dbol at 100mgs/ED for 4 weeks

    what do you guys think?
    I have about 20 weeks until my comp.

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    Yeah great thread.
    I think the best way to make them work is to keep high and non-pyramidal dosages.
    Just my 2c

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    this is one of the best threads

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    great thread, i know its old, but do you still run pct the same as a 12 weeka, any help please

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    Quote Originally Posted by letstrain View Post
    great thread, i know its old, but do you still run pct the same as a 12 weeka, any help please
    Yes you would.

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    Excellent thread.

    How about using long esters like Enan and Deca ?

    Week 1: 2,000 mg Enan and 1,000 mg Deca
    Week 2: 2,000 mg Enan and 1,000 mg Deca
    Week 3: Nothing
    Week 4: Nothing

    Then PCT.

    Perhaps run Dbol weeks 1-4 at 30-40 mg per day?

    Will stopping the Enan and Deca at day 14 clear the system by day 30? Or stop then at day 10?

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    I am sure the answer varies, and only labwork will provide individual answers. But.. on a simple one month test prop cycle of 500mg wk how long would PCT be run (if at all) and how long would you usually wait afterwards before another cycle of the same type?

    I ask this because I am planning to run a this cycle and need to get an idea about PCT and when labwork to verify recovery would be best.

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    I just started a Test Prop 100mg ED cycle, and I am loving it thus far. I imagine it is going to hit me like a ton of bricks soon.

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    I've been reading this thread/sticky that is about short burst cycling, training methods, diet, etc. I'm on post 12, interesting reading.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...raining-System

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