Looking for someone to guide a new-comer

[Cimmerian]

beta-2

[ottomaddox]

I'd be willing to help, but you still have to do cardio and fix your terrible diet.

[lex57]

its a beta 2 adrenergic, its a sympathomimetic because it acts like a sympathetic neurotransmitter

[Cimmerian]

I'd be willing to help, but you still have to do cardio and fix your terrible diet.

Well, I'm open to suggestions to fix my diet, but I'm not lowering caloric intake. You could also just engage me under the pretense that I'll be doing cardio.

I'd appreciate your help.

[Phate]

anyway, you want help, here are not one, but two diets that are very good for cutting, i'm using the first one right now, use these as models and you'll be halfway to losing all the fat you want, the other half of course would be cardio but these will help

Meal 1: 60g Oatmeal/225cal/8gP-41gC-2gF
turkey (99/1)/260/54gP-0gC-3gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 2: 40g Oatmeal/150cal/5gP-27gC-1.5gF
turkey (99/1)/260/54gP-0gC-3gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 3: 40g Oatmeal/150cal/5gP-27gC-1.5gF
beef (96/4)/300/50gP-0gC-8gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 4: 10mL flax oil 90cal/0gP-0gC-10gF
beef (96/4)/300/50gP-0gC-8gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 5: 10mL fish oil 90cal/0gP-0gC-10gF
Tuna 170cal/42gP-0gC-0gF
3.5 Tbsp Mayo light 70/0gP-4gC-5gF

Meal 6: Tuna 170cal/42gP-0gC-0gF
3.5 Tbsp Mayo light 70/0gP-4gC-5gF
beef or turkey 150cal/25gP-0gC-4gF

macros:Calories: 2615
Protein: 335=51%
Carbs: 111=17%
Fats: 74= 25%


DIET 2

Meal 1 - 5 egg whites (cal 80, pro18), Oats 80g (cal295 carb51 pro12 fat5), 1scoop whey (cal112, carb2.5, pro23, fat1.5). sprinkle cinnamon. TOTALS - Cal 485, carbs 53 pro 50, Fat 6.5

WORKOUT

PWO - 2 scoop whey (cal224, carb5, pro46, fat3), WMS 80g (cal280 carb68) TOTALS – Cal519, carbs73, pro58 fat 3

PPWO - Tuna 1/2 tin (cal 72,carb0 pro15 ), Oats 80g (cal295 carb51 pro12 fat4) 1scoop whey (cal112, carb2.5, pro23, fat1.5) TOTALS – cal480 carbs53 pro50 fat5.5

meal 4 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) Coconut Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Meal 5 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) Flax Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Meal 6 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) hemp Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Before Bed – Lean Mince200g (cal328 pro51 fat12) TOTALS cal328 pro51 fat12

DAILY TOTAL Cal 2928Carbs 179 Protein 360 fat 68.5

[ottomaddox]

Good work!!!!!! This will definitely get you going in the right direction, but you still have to do CARDIO.

anyway, you want help, here are not one, but two diets that are very good for cutting, i'm using the first one right now, use these as models and you'll be halfway to losing all the fat you want, the other half of course would be cardio but these will help

Meal 1: 60g Oatmeal/225cal/8gP-41gC-2gF
turkey (99/1)/260/54gP-0gC-3gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 2: 40g Oatmeal/150cal/5gP-27gC-1.5gF
turkey (99/1)/260/54gP-0gC-3gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 3: 40g Oatmeal/150cal/5gP-27gC-1.5gF
beef (96/4)/300/50gP-0gC-8gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 4: 10mL flax oil 90cal/0gP-0gC-10gF
beef (96/4)/300/50gP-0gC-8gF
2 Tbsp Mayo light 40cal/0gP-2gC-3gF

Meal 5: 10mL fish oil 90cal/0gP-0gC-10gF
Tuna 170cal/42gP-0gC-0gF
3.5 Tbsp Mayo light 70/0gP-4gC-5gF

Meal 6: Tuna 170cal/42gP-0gC-0gF
3.5 Tbsp Mayo light 70/0gP-4gC-5gF
beef or turkey 150cal/25gP-0gC-4gF

macros:Calories: 2615
Protein: 335=51%
Carbs: 111=17%
Fats: 74= 25%


DIET 2

Meal 1 - 5 egg whites (cal 80, pro18), Oats 80g (cal295 carb51 pro12 fat5), 1scoop whey (cal112, carb2.5, pro23, fat1.5). sprinkle cinnamon. TOTALS - Cal 485, carbs 53 pro 50, Fat 6.5

WORKOUT

PWO - 2 scoop whey (cal224, carb5, pro46, fat3), WMS 80g (cal280 carb68) TOTALS – Cal519, carbs73, pro58 fat 3

PPWO - Tuna 1/2 tin (cal 72,carb0 pro15 ), Oats 80g (cal295 carb51 pro12 fat4) 1scoop whey (cal112, carb2.5, pro23, fat1.5) TOTALS – cal480 carbs53 pro50 fat5.5

meal 4 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) Coconut Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Meal 5 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) Flax Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Meal 6 - 175g chicken (cal289 pro54 fat5) hemp Oil (cal83 fat9g) TOTALS – cal372, pro54, fat14

Before Bed – Lean Mince200g (cal328 pro51 fat12) TOTALS cal328 pro51 fat12

DAILY TOTAL Cal 2928Carbs 179 Protein 360 fat 68.5

[lex57]

I'd be willing to help, but you still have to do cardio and fix your terrible diet.

he wants to take a pill and lose 50 lbs.................

[Cimmerian]

I don't eat Mayo or Tuna. Eggs give me the runs. I couldn't follow that diet. I work better at reaching numbers, rather than following meal guides. I'll try to get 350g of protein and severely lower the carbs. Can you make suggestions with regard to my initial question.

[Phate]

try this for cardio, i do it alot and actually enjoy it

get on a treadmill and set it between 3.0 and 4.0 mph, go up in mph till it's hard to walk and then back it down .1mph so your at a brisk pace

now set the incline high till you have trouble walking without holding on, then back it down 1 notch, try not to hold on, if you have to then bend your arms and lean into the machine(not on it just lean towards it) so your legs are doing the majority of the work, do that for 30 minutes and gradually increase to 45-60 minutes

use music, watch tv or my personal favorite, get a book and read it to keep your mind off the time and i always put a towel over the timer and don't watch it or the calorie counter, eventually if you don't concentrate on the time you'll start to drift off and time will fly by, cardio done, easy, now go start burning off them pounds!!!!!

[thaiboxerfr]

well i hate cardio as well... i replace it with ALOT of wrestling, grappling, boxing, etc etc... its way more fun... besides who wants to run for an hour when u can roll for 20 mins and get more out of it and the best way to speed up metabolism is eat 6 small meals through out the day, start RIGHT when u wake up... cuz when u sleep ur body is starving and ur metabolism slows down to compinsate... so if ur intake of food is constant... body never starves... and doesnt need to store food as fat to burn later... u have to be consistant with it tho... this is what i do before fights to cut weight... u can loose prob 20 lbs in 2 weeks if u start hitting a heavy bag and eating right... yea its mostly water weight but it shows.. and stay away from salt :-X u can get a sauna suit and jump rope in a sauna, thats always fun lol

[Cimmerian]

My initial question being how to stack clenbuterol ....Once again, I'm not doing cardio. I feel guilty that you guys have typed that all down, but let me repeat: I'm not doing cardio so do not suggest cardio routines.

Ottomaddox, do you have experience with clenbuterol?

[ottomaddox]

Stop focussing on the negatives, You ought to be kissing Phate186's harry bean bag for putting together that diet for you. You've got to help us help you and start with a more positive attitude, and then things will begin to happen for you. Instead of saying what you can't eat, just replace with something you can eat. I can see why everyone is bailing out of this thread.

I don't eat Mayo or Tuna. Eggs give me the runs. I couldn't follow that diet. I work better at reaching numbers, rather than following meal guides. I'll try to get 350g of protein and severely lower the carbs. Can you make suggestions with regard to my initial question.

[Phate]

I don't eat Mayo or Tuna. Eggs give me the runs. I couldn't follow that diet. I work better at reaching numbers, rather than following meal guides. I'll try to get 350g of protein and severely lower the carbs. Can you make suggestions with regard to my initial question.

i could, but your not ready for anything yet, go get some hydroxycut hardcore, if you don't have the dedication to change your diet at the very least, you don't need to mess with clen , it can mess you up if you don't respect it, like all AS can if you abuse them, so no, no one on here will help you hurt yourself

btw, whats up with all these excuses, so you don't eat mayo and tuna, eat chicken instead, or turkey or lean beek or salmon or the million other things that are low in fat and high in protein

what you said about going to numbers is bullshvt and you know it, how are you going to keep track, i guarantee you aren't going to take the time to write it down and keeping it in your head is impossible, if you try that you WILL FORGET OR LOSE TRACK AND CHEAT MORE

i'm seriously trying to help you bro, hell, i just typed out two VERY LONG diet plans and all you can do is make excuses, EITHER DO IT AND HELP YOURSELF OR DON'T WE DON'T CARE, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU, NOT BE YOUR SERVANTS, YOU WANT TO LOSE WEIGHT, WE JUST SHOWED YOU HOW, SO POP THE TITTY OUT OF YOUR MOUTH AND GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT



I'll probably have to edit this for flaming but before i do he needs to read it

[ottomaddox]

Sorry, there's no helping you. You need to re-evaluate what your realistic goals really are, because without proper diet and training you'll never get anywhere.
Good luck on your own,
CR

My initial question being how to stack clenbuterol ....Once again, I'm not doing cardio. I feel guilty that you guys have typed that all down, but let me repeat: I'm not doing cardio so do not suggest cardio routines.

Ottomaddox, do you have experience with clenbuterol?

[Cimmerian]

In all fairness, I was looking for tips on how to stack/use clen and there has yet to be ONE response telling me how to do so.

I came to the Anabolic Steroids Q&A forum...so I should be dignified an answer.

[Phate]

In all fairness, I was looking for tips on how to stack/use clen and there has yet to be ONE response telling me how to do so.

I came to the Anabolic Steroids Q&A forum...so I should be dignified an answer.

what makes you think that because you ask a question we HAVE to answer it, why do you think we ask for stats, we are trying to figure out if the person is ready for what they want to take, we're not doing this to be dicks, we're doing it to prevent people from hurting themselves, i could tell you all you needed to know about clen if i wanted, but i don't want you hurting yourself or worse because of my advice and the others on this board feel the same

anyway, i've tried to help you and my hands are killing me from the typing, so either take the advise or leave it, good luck bro, your gonna need it

[Cimmerian]

bump, for those willing to help me.

.........

[NATE0406]

My initial question being how to stack clenbuterol ....Once again, I'm not doing cardio. I feel guilty that you guys have typed that all down, but let me repeat: I'm not doing cardio so do not suggest cardio routines.

Ottomaddox, do you have experience with clenbuterol?

run for at least 45mins a day...

[NATE0406]

have someone place a cheeseburger on the tailgate of your truck and let them take off and you could chase them. who says cardio has to be boring.

[Cimmerian]

Yes, with a form asthma that has me wheezing and coughing up mucus if I lightly jog for 30 seconds, running for 45 mins sounds like a wise idea...

[NATE0406]

Yes, with a form asthma that has me wheezing and coughing up mucus if I lightly jog for 30 seconds, running for 45 mins sounds like a wise idea...

what do you take for your asthma??

[sm15]

look dude, why come to this board and ask for help when you ignore what everyone has to say. You yourself said your diet is bad and you wont do cardio. So either accept being overweight or step up and do what you HAVE to do to lose the weight. Nothing you take will help especially with your goals.

[Cimmerian]

Not clenbuterol ....But I found my source elsewhere, so now I've got $200 worth waiting to be used...

[Phate]

Yes, with a form asthma that has me wheezing and coughing up mucus if I lightly jog for 30 seconds, running for 45 mins sounds like a wise idea...

nice remark bro, so how do you workout at a high enough intensity to raise your metabolism?

[thaiboxerfr]

haha, actually I have seen some guys on tv and they seem to have no trouble keeping the weight off and I bet they do little to no cardio unless you count running from the pimps and police.
Edited

lol yea, dude just hit the EDITED and ull loose weight

Work with me guys...
Big

[Cimmerian]

look dude, why come to this board and ask for help when you ignore what everyone has to say. You yourself said your diet is bad and you wont do cardio. So either accept being overweight or step up and do what you HAVE to do to lose the weight. Nothing you take will help especially with your goals.

If I had asked for clen stacks, and people replied with their own suggestions and I refused to follow their directions, I would wholly agree with you. Unfortunately, not one person has actually helped me.

[NATE0406]

Not clenbuterol....But I found my source elsewhere, so now I've got $200 worth waiting to be used...

do you really think that clen will just "burn" fat off of you.... guess what bro not going to happen.

[Cimmerian]

nice remark bro, so how do you workout at a high enough intensity to raise your metabolism?

I guess it isn't very intense, if I somehow manage to do it. All I know is that I'm soaked in sweat and the muscle group is dead tired, and yet I can still manage to breathe after a workout.

[NATE0406]

Yes, with a form asthma that has me wheezing and coughing up mucus if I lightly jog for 30 seconds, running for 45 mins sounds like a wise idea...

what do you take for your asthma. because im thinking that you are just making excuses..

[thaiboxerfr]

look, u got to 250 lbs by not doing anything about ur weight... so ur probably not in any kind of shape to be useing ... just gonna mess u up man. thats like a 6`4 160 lb nerd whos never lifted a weight in his life, smokes cigarettes, and eats packets of butter from mcdonalds.. doing a 12 week dbol cycle... do u really think thats not gonna mess him up royaly :-X

and i just started my first cycle last week so im no expert!!!! but i know a dumb*ss when i see one... and im only calling u that cuz u have no sense to listen to what the people on this forum say... they know what they are talking about, trust me!

[Phate]

If I had asked for clen stacks, and people replied with their own suggestions and I refused to follow their directions, I would wholly agree with you. Unfortunately, not one person has actually helped me.

okay, let's sum up this thread

you came to a bodybuilding/steroid forum

you ask about clen

EVERYONE of us don't think you are ready

you ask about clen

we tell you to do cardio

you say you won't...then you ask about clen

we say you need to do cardio and ask about your diet

you say you don't do cardio....then you ask about clen

we talk about your diet and establish it sucks and we tell you to change it

you make excuses...then you ask about clen

I post TWO DIETS for you to follow

you make excuses...then you ask about clen

does anyone see a pattern

can we close this thread???

[Cimmerian]

If you do, then don't reply to this thread. You clearly have no intention of helping me with my original Q, so it's pointless.

[NATE0406]

maybe he is a spammer??? bro point is your lazy.. and no one his is going to help someone who wont help themselves. good luck

[Cimmerian]

The pattern is a refusal to answer a very simple question. One way or the other I'm going to use clen (I'm not going to throw $200+ down the toilet). I'm looking for safe, but effective ways to use it. Simple question....

[Phate]

what i have the intention of doing is closing this ridiculous thread

[NATE0406]

The pattern is a refusal to answer a very simple question. One way or the other I'm going to use clen (I'm not going to throw $200+ down the toilet). I'm looking for safe, but effective ways to use it. Simple question....

well bro i can promise you that you have got all the answers from us that you will get.

[Phate]

The pattern is a refusal to answer a very simple question. One way or the other I'm going to use clen (I'm not going to throw $200+ down the toilet). I'm looking for safe, but effective ways to use it. Simple question....

send it to me, i could use it as i'm almost out, hell i'll even pay you for it, after i receive it to make sure it's legit of course

[NATE0406]

The pattern is a refusal to answer a very simple question. One way or the other I'm going to use clen (I'm not going to throw $200+ down the toilet). I'm looking for safe, but effective ways to use it. Simple question....

put it in your butt.

[Cimmerian]

Would you like it gift-wrapped as well?

[Phate]

yeah, that would be nice, anyway, say whatever you want to cause this thread is gonna be closed in a couple minutes