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  1. 09-04-2008, 01:59 PM #1
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    Tested positive?!?

    alright i did a cycle of test enanthate 250 twice a week for 12 weeks.....That was three years ago. So i got a steroid test done a week ago. Got the results today......well...... Anabolic steroid confirmation by GC/MS positive for elevated T/E ratio.....what the hell does that mean????
    it also has written
    Testosterone /Epitestoster H 7.1 [0-6] (uv) AN ELEVATED T/E RATIO MAY OFTEN BE CAUSED BY EXOGENOUS DOPING.
    PH H 8.3 [5.0-8.0] (uv)
    Specific Gravitiy 1.012 (uv)
    Urine Creatinine 293.5 mg/dL (uv)

    then it says the following anabolic steroids and/or metabolites are included in a steroid screen ...... then lists all the names of steroids

    Bottomline is i havent stuck a needle in my a$$ or any part of my body in three years.... I was taking a supplement called MassTabs right before i got this test done. I dont even know what this result is saying?? but i feel like i just lit 300$ on fire and watched it burn....can anyone shed some light on this for me or atleast tell me what this is saying ?
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  2. 09-04-2008, 02:02 PM #2
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    The mass tabs could have led to an increase in your Test levels....
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    Bingo!^^^

    Why were you tested?

    Is this you Floyd Landis?
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  4. 09-04-2008, 02:23 PM #4
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    So a supplement sold OTC is gonna make me fail a steroid test? that sounds crazy to me. however im pretty sure they did get yanked off the shelves. i mean is this saying that i tested positive for anabolic steroids ? i mean this sucks. I cant even make sense of this paper. when i got the test done i told them i was taking mass tabs and the dumb b1tch said "oh my husband takes those they shouldnt show up." i was like cool alright lets do it. now i fail? im so pissed right now i dont even know what to do..... like what does this shit mean

    Testosterone /Epitestoster H 7.1 [0-6] (uv)

    is 7.1 my T/E ratio? caz wikipedia says a ratio of 10:1 can be normal for some people? im just so confused right now
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    Bump, I would like to hear more on this
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  6. 09-04-2008, 02:28 PM #6
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    why were you being tested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Bingo!^^^

    Why were you tested?

    Is this you Floyd Landis?

    See bold...
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    i have no idea who that is???????
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  9. 09-04-2008, 02:38 PM #9
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    Being tested to show my baseball coach im not on the juice and no i have no idea who floyd landis is
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    The guy who won the Tour De France... Then was stripped of the title for having high test levels...


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Landis
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  11. 09-04-2008, 02:41 PM #11
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    Ive also been assured that mass tabs wont show up on a steroid test but then again gnc will tell u anything to sell u their product im soooo pissed right now ... are there any doctors out there that can explain what exactly this shit means,, i mean the fat wh0re of a woman at the lab place didnt know her a$$hole from a hole in the ground like i said im pissed
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  12. 09-04-2008, 02:42 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    The guy who won the Tour De France... Then was stripped of the title for having high test levels...


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Landis
    oh yeah i guess shoulda caught that lol thats right on the page i was reafing about the ratios and masking agent what the hell?

    Epitestosterone has not been shown to enhance athletic performance, although administration of epistestosterone can be used to mask a high level of testosterone if the standard T/E ratio test is used. As such, epitestosterone is banned by many sporting authorities as a masking agent for testosterone.

    what does that mean exactly ?
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    It means if its in your system, they ban your ass...

    If you take it, it could mask high Test levels...
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    There is your first mistake......Using GNC........talk about a bunch of overpriced supplements......try using the intenet for something other than talking on this site....
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  15. 09-04-2008, 02:59 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    It means if its in your system, they ban your ass...

    If you take it, it could mask high Test levels...
    so is epitestosterone an anabolic steroid ? im still lost i guess im just dumb
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  16. 09-04-2008, 03:00 PM #16
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    i mean if its a masking agent and not a steroid but just used to mask high levels of test then technically i didnt test positive for AS right? or wrong ? lol
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    Your fine, a T/E ratio is used to further test for the appearance of steroids . A high or higher than normal T/E ratio is an indicator of someone on steroids but in of its self does not confirm the presence of steroids in the system. They are starting to do relative T/E ratios for athletic testing now. Because some people already have a naturally higher T/E ratio as part of there normal physiology. So they take a baseline, when they know your not on any anabolics. If you ever test higher than your baseline they will then test more metabolites of steroids in your system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Your fine, a T/E ratio is used to further test for the appearance of steroids. A high or higher than normal T/E ratio is an indicator of someone on steroids but in of its self does not confirm the presence of steroids in the system. They are starting to do relative T/E ratios for athletic testing now. Because some people already have a naturally higher T/E ratio as part of there normal physiology. So they take a baseline, when they know your not on any anabolics. If you ever test higher than your baseline they will then test more metabolites of steroids in your system.
    so im fine?? how do i go about explaining this tho? --->Anabolic steroid confirmation by GC/MS positive for elevated T/E ratio
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    You just tell him that all the test confirms is that you have naturally high levels of testosterone . A lot of athletes already have higher than normal T/E ratios, either as a product of physical training or an inherent selective advantage.

    What coach orders his players to have a drug test anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    You just tell him that all the test confirms is that you have naturally high levels of testosterone . A lot of athletes already have higher than normal T/E ratios, either as a product of physical training or an inherent selective advantage.

    What coach orders his players to have a drug test anyway?
    i dont know this is a big mess tho i can tell u that
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJenson View Post
    i dont know this is a big mess tho i can tell u that
    The hell with it get a lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    The hell with it get a lawyer.
    Word
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  23. 09-04-2008, 07:34 PM #23
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    wanted to bump for the fresh night time eyes
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  24. 09-04-2008, 08:51 PM #24
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    Hmmm i cant really help you with all those big words lol but ill bump it for you, only because ive taken mass tabs b4
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