Running Novla during cycle?

[freemansout2003]

Im taking 250mg test Cyp x2 a week and 400mg EQ once a week. Do I really need to run novla during or can I just wait until pct? 2nd shot of test today no sign of sides

["Maximus"]

No, you don't need Nolva on cycle. Keep it for your PCT; you're doing just fine! You can run an AI on cycle though, just to make sure your estro levels are kept in check like letro at .25ml ED.

[WARMachine]

Nolva is terrible to run during cycle...

You need an AI for gyno on cycle...

Read this...
189's pct
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/354573-one8nines-opinion-pct-links-side-effect-control-too.html#post4111013

189's thread on AIs on cycle / dealing with side effects
estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

[freemansout2003]

Thanks, But has anyone just ran test and not had to run AI's? In many first cycle i've seen as light a mine no one said to run anything but nolva or colmid, which I took there advice i was just goin to save them for pct

[LATS60]

Thanks, But has anyone just ran test and not had to run AI's? In many first cycle i've seen as light a mine no one said to run anything but nolva or colmid, which I took there advice i was just goin to save them for pct

Iv'e never touched a serm or ai in the 20yrs iv'e been using steroids .

[freemansout2003]

Is Proviron good anti boob maker?

["Maximus"]

In Test only cycles, an AI on cycle is not necessary... but it is a precaution against a high rise in estro levels. Again, it is not necessary.

OK, you are not making any sense and prompted me to ask you for stats as obviously, we all missed to ask you that! Do you know about PCT????



Age, Height, BF%, Cycle Experience, Diet, Workout routine, Goals for this cycle?

["Maximus"]

Is Proviron good anti boob maker?

Please, provide us with STATS bro!

["Maximus"]

I won't answer any more of your questions, till you provide some stats! sorry...

[freemansout2003]

26
5 11
180
16% bf( just found out:-()
lifting for 5 yrs on and off
I haven't been lift as much as I should have for the last 6 months and Im paying dearly for it.. I was 190 9%bf, this is my first cycle, if you don't include M1T when It was legal in 04

["Maximus"]

OK, start here:

Newbies' starter pack:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

189's PCT protocol:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741


Do some reading and then we'll be able to help you better mate. Also, make sure you have a good, clean diet and workout routine; those two are a must if you're thinking about using AAS!

Let us know if you have more questions.

[WARMachine]

Wow... 16%BF is too high to be cycling my friend...

btw, Max, youre a post whore....

[WARMachine]

Who too agrees with me?

["Maximus"]

Wow... 16%BF is too high to be cycling my friend...

btw, Max, youre a post whore....

LOL... too, whore!

[WARMachine]

Come on people lets hear your voice!

["Maximus"]

It's Friday, I'm bored... wating for my missy to screw up my weekend lol!!!!!

["Maximus"]

let's go to postwhore thread!

[WARMachine]

see ya there...

[one8nine]

lets see your diet mr 16%

[freemansout2003]

morning 4 eggs 2 slices whole wheat toast 1 cup coffee
mid lunchne can tuna+natural valley whole grain bar
lunch turkey sandwich usaully
snack beef jerky
protein shake
gym
dinner chick or skeak with veggie's and and corn
this was yesterday's diet...
Now keep in mind I haven't been on a diet until last week and I paided for it..

[WARMachine]

ah ha!

[one8nine]

morning 4 eggs 2 slices whole wheat toast 1 cup coffee

coffee sux, have oatmeal instead of bread

mid lunchne can tuna+natural valley whole grain bar

those bars suck, eat a potato instead

lunch turkey sandwich usaully

again, less bread- more good carbs

snack beef jerky

dont snack have a good meal

protein shake

shakes go post workout

gym
dinner chick or skeak with veggie's and and corn

add a little potato

this was yesterday's diet...
Now keep in mind I haven't been on a diet until last week and I paided for it

you paid for THAT??

[freemansout2003]

I've never been about 11% bf, before now it was like a wake up call to hear that!!! I've alway's been a hard gainer so it was easy to stay lean.. Now I look at a Happy meal cross eyed it seems like a put on 10lbs...lol

[one8nine]

im pming this to phate hes the diet expert

[Phate]

morning 4 eggs 2 slices whole wheat toast 1 cup coffee
what do you add to the coffee? sugar? creamer?, check the ingredient list on the bread, is it made with whole wheat flour, look into Ezekiel bread, best kind out there
mid lunchne can tuna+natural valley whole grain bar
Do you eat the tuna by itself or with something? mayo maybe?
cut out the natural valley bar and get some sweet potatos in there
lunch turkey sandwich usaully
what type of turkey? from a deli or the processed kind? what bread? what condiments? you need to add details here
snack beef jerky
full of sodium, get some tuna, turkey, chicken, low fat beef or other lean protein source instead and you need a carb source, how bout sweet potatos again, or red potatos
protein shake
what type? you need about 30g of carbs and 25-30g of protein preworkout
gym
you need to eat within 45-60minutes of working out
dinner chick or skeak with veggie's and and corn
NO CORN, what kind of steak and veggies, your last meal should have a slow digesting protein(casein, which is the protein found in milk), so add some cottage cheese
this was yesterday's diet...
Now keep in mind I haven't been on a diet until last week and I paided for it..

Your BMR is 1911cal but you need to multiply it by your activity level and tell what what you get

Sedentary = BMR X 1.2 (little or no exercise, desk job)
Lightly active = BMR X 1.375 (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/wk)
Mod. active = BMR X 1.55 (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/wk)
Very active = BMR X 1.725 (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/wk)
Extr. active = BMR X 1.9 (hard daily exercise/sports & physical job or 2X day training, i.e marathon, contest etc.)

be honest, if you're not then you are only hurting yourself

I also need you macros for the food so take some time and write down what you eat and how much pro/carbs/fats it has in it and add that into the diet you wrote out earlier

how often do you eat? do you want to bulk or cut? what are your goals? help me out here