eq or deca during a test e+dbol cycle

**jstraw428** · 09-24-2008, 03:18 PM

Marcus???? We need your help.....

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 03:19 PM

^^^ I agree... Hopefully he will take a look at this and put an end to it...

**Drake Hotel** · 09-24-2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Here? You say 9 weeks of Test E @ 500mgs a week?

Im saying most people dont run a Test E cycle less than 10-12 weeks.

Marcus is talking about short 30day burst cycles with high doses around 1500mgs. thats when hes talking about running long esters for a short period of time.

9 weeks is longer than 30 days. And 500mgs and 1500mgs a week is a HUGE difference.

war, Marcus's text gives no dosage for the short burst cycle. I think you may be reading the text wrong. It says that the dose in the short burst cycle will depend on what doses one usually cycles on, one dose for someone who cycles 500mg/w and a different dose for someone who cycles 1500mg/w.

1. Individual dosages are designed off your cycle history,

2. there is no set dose it all depends on what your cycle history looks like,

3. someone who normally uses 500mg per wk will be completely different to the guy who uses 1500mgs per wk when designing short burst cycles, but

4. both will have the benefit of using high amounts what they normally don't run.

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 03:21 PM

Im aware he didnt give actual doses... Im simply saying there is a difference between a regualr 10-12 week Test E cycle doses and a 30 day short burst cycles doses.

However point #4 states that they will run high dose ammounts they dont normally run.

**Drake Hotel** · 09-24-2008, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Agreed... Though Drake was not suggesting a frontloaded cycle.

He suggested a 9 week Test E cycle at 500mgs a week.

If TS were to frontload his cycle, i would say 10 weeks is fine. Although i would keep doing test E for 2-4 weeks or until gains seem to stop.

Oh oh what? war I'm almost offended, check post 9 in this thread, quote me:

Yeah possibly. What's your stats and cycle history? Instead of dbol you can just frontload on the first injection, jump start that cycle.

I also mention frontloading in every thread that I mention short cycles. Always. Oh, and later I said this:

I'm always assuming frontloading btw, without it I agree it takes quite some time for it to really kick in.

You're bringing me to tears bro, please don't

**Nworb** · 09-24-2008, 03:24 PM

I totally forgot but i planned on taking 10mg of nolva ed, should I save the nolva for pct if so, what should i use on cycle?

**Drake Hotel** · 09-24-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Im aware he didnt give actual doses... Im simply saying there is a difference between a regualr 10-12 week Test E cycle doses and a 30 day short burst cycles doses.

However point #4 states that they will run high dose ammounts they dont normally run.

Indeed war, but this guy hasn't cycled for 18 months so exogenous supraphysiological doses of testosterone will certainly be an amount of test higher than normal :P

**LATS60** · 09-24-2008, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Agreed... Though Drake was not suggesting a frontloaded cycle.

He suggested a 9 week Test E cycle at 500mgs a week.

If TS were to frontload his cycle, i would say 10 weeks is fine. Although i would keep doing test E for 2-4 weeks or until gains seem to stop.

Jesus, i didn't say he was suggesting that, my post was directed at straw, i thought that was clear.
Routinely 6-7 wks, LOL.

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 03:27 PM

Oh crap im sorry about that Drake.

I really did just overlook that. I didnt catch it in the previous posts. Damn, well then...

I guess were agreeing after all!

**Drake Hotel** · 09-24-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Oh crap im sorry about that Drake.

I really did just overlook that. I didnt catch it in the previous posts. Damn, well then...

I guess were agreeing after all!

Awesome! I hate forum fights you see. Man hug?

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Nworb

I totally forgot but i planned on taking 10mg of nolva ed, should I save the nolva for pct if so, what should i use on cycle?

Nolva on cycle is dumb...
get an AI

**jstraw428** · 09-24-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nworb

I totally forgot but i planned on taking 10mg of nolva ed, should I save the nolva for pct if so, what should i use on cycle?

Save it for PCT......dont use Nolva with a 19-nor(nnp)

if you are gyno prone, you could use a low dose of letro....you can also look into bromo, or caber....

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Drake Hotel

Awesome! I hate forum fights you see. Man hug?

Absoultly bro...

Dont grab my ass though...

I feel like a jackass... We were arguing on something we agreed upon

**LATS60** · 09-24-2008, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Nolva on cycle is dumb...
get an AI

Agreed, nolva will do nothing to stop the aromatisation of test you need an AI.

**jstraw428** · 09-24-2008, 03:30 PM

Dammit war, you beat me to it......

At least we all agreed that EQ blows donkey balls

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 03:31 PM

YAY! now were all agree and were all friends!

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AHHH! i cant take not fighting! I hate all being friendly!

Jstraw has a stupid face...(who else wants some?!)