clen = heart attack

**intensityfreak** · 02-16-2009, 05:18 PM

is it a good idea to run clen during spring training for football. my heart beats 100 mi/hr but i notice some fat loss after practice. i would like to stay on it but i dont know if its safe or not. please give me your opion on it.......

**johnnybigguns** · 02-16-2009, 05:28 PM

I think you would be fine specially if your an athlete your heart should be strong

***D7M*** · 02-16-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by intensityfreak

is it a good idea to run clen during spring training for football. my heart beats 100 mi/hr but i notice some fat loss after practice. i would like to stay on it but i dont know if its safe or not. please give me your opion on it.......

how old are you?

**intensityfreak** · 02-16-2009, 05:36 PM

thanks anyone else. i would like 2 or 3 more opinions

**The Deuce** · 02-16-2009, 06:59 PM

You should be fine... you especially wont have a heart attack... you might have some heart palps but beyond that some nervousness and cramps if you arent downing the water and pounding the taurine to ya !!

**jamyjamjr** · 02-16-2009, 07:05 PM

just keep an eye on your heart rate.. if it's getting too high, like 180 plus a min.... lay off it

**The Deuce** · 02-16-2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

just keep an eye on your heart rate.. if it's getting too high, like 180 plus a min.... lay off it

Resting?? Yah 180 resting wouldn't be a good sign... yah pretty much 180 bpm at any given time is not a good thing at all....

**Ashop** · 02-16-2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by intensityfreak

is it a good idea to run clen during spring training for football. my heart beats 100 mi/hr but i notice some fat loss after practice. i would like to stay on it but i dont know if its safe or not. please give me your opion on it.......

I think you will be just fine,,,just dont go crazy with the dosages and drink TONS of fluids.

**The Deuce** · 02-16-2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by ****

drink TONS of fluids.

Now when you say TONS... what do you mean by TONS. 1-2 gallons of water per day... or more?? And does the water count that you use to mix protein shakes with?? I have always wondered that.....

***D7M*** · 02-16-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Now when you say TONS... what do you mean by TONS. 1-2 gallons of water per day... or more?? And does the water count that you use to mix protein shakes with?? I have always wondered that.....

I don't count the water used in my shake (s) toward my water intake.

I wouldn't suggest over a gallon a day, depending on your activity level, etc.

**The Deuce** · 02-16-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by derek7m

I don't count the water used in my shake (s) toward my water intake.

I wouldn't suggest over a gallon a day, depending on your activity level, etc.

Nice... yah I consume approx. 3 liters of pure water per day... I wasn't sure if when I go on Clen if I should up it any more than that or keep it the same... now i know... and knowing is half the battle !!

**jamyjamjr** · 02-16-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Resting?? Yah 180 resting wouldn't be a good sign... yah pretty much 180 bpm at any given time is not a good thing at all....

lol.. no man, i ment in exercise.. that's near svt, i'd hope it wouldn't be resting, that would be a big prob

**intensityfreak** · 02-16-2009, 10:29 PM

thank you for all the opinions.. and im 23. also im doing 140mcg as of now. should i lower it...

**firmechicano831** · 02-16-2009, 10:35 PM

I took clen and I had to stop. I felt my heart was going to pop out. LOL

**The Deuce** · 02-16-2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by firmechicano831

I took clen and I had to stop. I felt my heart was going to pop out. LOL

What was the dose you were running?? 200 mcg?? lol

**Phate** · 02-16-2009, 10:42 PM

to the OP, keep an eye on blood pressure as well

**GGallin** · 02-16-2009, 10:45 PM

It gave me heart palptations

**The Deuce** · 02-16-2009, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by GGallin

It gave me heart palptations

At normal doses?? And are heart palps really all that bad?? I mean can you die from it?? Usually I get heart palps when my anxiety goes up and I just take one of my magic pills and it all goes away

I would say I am nervous to try the clen but... I need it at this point and I think the benefits will outweigh the sides.. and honestly i think it is all a head game. I am going to follow proper protocol and not take abnormal amounts of the stuff and at the first sign of something bad I will obviously drop the dose or.. stop altogether.. i think the sides are more of a hype than anything else. Kinda like when someone will say that TEST gives you anxiety... I don't believe that for an instant. I think people give themselves anxiety. Not the compound itself. I think Me and Clen are going to get along just fine... just fine indeed... kinda like Me and Tren

HAHAHAHA !!!

**KatsMeow** · 02-16-2009, 11:45 PM

OK there is a website that you can enter your information and it will tell you what your heart rate should be when you are getting into fat burning levels, it depends mostly on your age and it will give you percentages to stay in. The lower your resting heart rate is, the better in shape you are, of course this is different with clen because it will increase your heart rate, and although you are young, I wouldn't push it.

**JiGGaMaN** · 02-17-2009, 02:10 AM

i would say its foolish.

**The Deuce** · 02-17-2009, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

i would say its foolish.

What is FOOLISH?? Am I missing something brotha??

**lord henry** · 02-17-2009, 07:52 AM

if there is any concern about you useing clen and your helth then dont do it man ,its as simple as that.

**kidrock29520** · 02-17-2009, 12:48 PM

if your a bodybuilder i'd stick with clen however if your an athlete i'd stick with albuterol if you can find it shorter half life less possibility for side effects plus if you only want to be hyped up temporarily albuterol is the way to go

**JiGGaMaN** · 02-17-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by The Deuce

What is FOOLISH?? Am I missing something brotha??

what do you think? im saying- yeah, clen and doing cardio in a controlled scenario where you can work at your own intensity/duration etc should be ok. but taking clen in a scenario where you are not in control of these factors is potentially dangerous and not necessary.

**The Deuce** · 02-17-2009, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

what do you think? im saying- yeah, clen and doing cardio in a controlled scenario where you can work at your own intensity/duration etc should be ok. but taking clen in a scenario where you are not in control of these factors is potentially dangerous and not necessary.

Oh ... I see....

Well I just got some bad news... I have wanted to use Clen ... but I just ran it through the Drug Interaction Checker on WEBmd and ALBUTEROL popped for having an interaction(major) with another medication I am on. And since CLEN was not in their database and correct me if I am wrong but i thought that they were one and the same.. obviously they have their individual difference I believe they are the same class of drug. Like Advil is to Aleeve. They are both NSAIDs. Apparently the Albuterol is a beta 2 antagonist of some sort and combined with the medication I am on will produce, tachycardia and ventricular defibrilation. (Life Threatening Things). I wish that it was wrong but I am glad I checked before I just decided to jump on it without running it through a database.

Then I thought about maybe some T3 but honestly I don't wanna mess with my thyroid hormone with that stuff. I would be worried I would do something in correctly and shut it off and be on replacement thyroid hormone for the rest of my life. AHHH I am stressed and don't know what to do anymore...