2nd cycle, advice needed. Prop/Winny

**personaltrainermark** · 03-27-2009, 11:23 AM

Hello all, back again.
Background on myself:
5'11
195
23yrs old in a month
+-13% bf

1 previous cycle last year at this time rand 500mg test-e for 12 weeks shots split 2-250mg shots per week. Solid PCT clomid, nolva, arimidex . I had no side effects and gained a good amount of mass and strength from this cycle i went from 187ish to 205 and over the past year have kept about 10lbs of the 20 I gained.

I was going to use my next cycle as a summer cutting cycle but I want to continue to bulk. I will use this cycle as a lean bulk. My goal is to get over 200lbs and lower my bf to around 10% by the end of my pct. I have a solid pct with clomi and nolva and arimidex on hand also. I already purchased my supplies and I am going to use what I have, which is.... 5000mg of test prop and 2500mg of winny orals.

My plan is to run 150mg of test prop EOD for 8 weeks and then with the winny; thats where my question comes in.

How should I run the winny in this cycle 50mg ed for all 8 weeks? or maybe 75mg ed for the last 4 weeks?

Anyone want to help me out here?

**Mammon** · 03-27-2009, 11:30 AM

id run it 6-8 weeks.. i usually run it 6

**magic32** · 03-27-2009, 12:12 PM

Firstly, 100mgs ED is far superior to 50mgs, making your 75mg proposal a good one, except for the fact that it takes time for the serum levels to build, so in this case the longer 50, supercedes the shorter 75. Again, you'd do well to acquire more and run the 100. Also remember to divide and dose twice daily (8-12hrs apart) for optimal results.

**personaltrainermark** · 03-27-2009, 08:38 PM

so 75mg ed for 6 weeks sound good?

**hankdiesel** · 03-28-2009, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by personaltrainermark

so 75mg ed for 6 weeks sound good?

I've never gone above 50mg a day and had incredible results. 6 weeks max on that stuff for me. My bf is always low when I'm on winny. I'm assuming you know this is the only way to see good results.

**personaltrainermark** · 03-29-2009, 08:36 AM

Thanks for the input Hank. I use an elctro scale to test my bf and it says today that I am 12.2% bf. Hopefully by the time I start my cycle in a couple weeks and with the first 2 weeks of prop by itself I can get this down to 10% or so.

My cycle will go as follows

weeks 1 - 8 test prop - 150mg eod
weeks 3 - 8 oral winny - 75 mg ed (25mg every 8 hrs.)

I will take winny in the Morning, before workout, and I get up 2-3 times in the middle of the night. always have always will so ill pop 25mg in the middle of the night that way my levels stay balance through the 6 weeks.