VETS: Bulker Cycle Critique

[peachfuzz]

bump for pics!

[sigman roid]

X2 pics please

[TractionIssues]

X4 Pics Pwease! :P

[Ernst]

X5 pics plz

Hey, look! I posted outside the lounge! That's my Q&A contribution for the day.

[Mooseman33]

you ran 3 cycles while still in highschool? which would most likely be around the age of 18 and only gained 16 pounds?

you need to learn to eat and train bro....

and where are the new pics

[Dukkit]

im bumping this

bump to the left. Bump to the right
bump up and down on my disco stick

[T-MOS]

Hmmm Interesting Thread....Can't wait for the updated pics....

[chuckt12345]

dont even know why people follow this post,, seriousmass is no where near ready for that cycle.

[T-MOS]

dont even know why people follow this post,, seriousmass is no where near ready for that cycle.

Cause it will be entertaining to see how he rationalizes doing it along with the pics.....

[Dancer]

Cause it will be entertaining to see how he rationalizes doing it along with the pics.....

T, I don't understand why would it be hard to rationalize a 21 year-old 6'2" male @ 170lb cycling?

[Reed]

You guys are mean. Lets not dog on him, does that ever get people any where. No makes them close off and not want to listen and do shit anyway.

But I do agree w/ what that are trying to say seriousmass. You have some work to put in and its best if you post your diet and training, no need for the pics, we know what you look like, If you truly want to progress lets get that diet and training together, I'll help!!! mmmmkay

[chuckt12345]

ONLY reason i call him out is cause hes an ahole to anyone on the board who doesnt know everything he knows and the fact hes always talkin shit about what cycles hes run, ive seen him say 4, 3 and now 2. BTW his FIRST EVER cycle ended like 04/15/09 and he said he didnt run a pct and jumped right on the next cycle. BS

[Dancer]

You guys are mean. Lets not dog on him, does that ever get people any where. No makes them close off and not want to listen and do shit anyway.

But I do agree w/ what that are trying to say seriousmass. You have some work to put in and its best if you post your diet and training, no need for the pics, we know what you look like, If you truly want to progress lets get that diet and training together, I'll help!!! mmmmkay

Reed,

I think so much of this is principle...

being 21

being 170 pounds

having 3-4 cycles under your belt

and hypocritically telling others to work on their diets and their lifting while one's own diet and lifting is not in check...

I maybe wrong and this provides the good medium to prove if the OP is actually 196... IMHO still very light for his hight...

I think, Reed, there would not be 7-10 members asking for pics if none of what I stated was a concern to any onf them...

[Reed]

ONLY reason i call him out is cause hes an ahole to anyone on the board who doesnt know everything he knows and the fact hes always talkin shit about what cycles hes run, ive seen him say 4, 3 and now 2. BTW his FIRST EVER cycle ended like 04/15/09 and he said he didnt run a pct and jumped right on the next cycle. BS

I agree chuck and Dancer, I've seen it as well. I'm trying to stay nice here and have that bullshit stop and get him on the right track. He hasn't come at me yet but if he does I'll clamp down like AR's Pitbull haha thats gay but for real though.

I think I already called it like it is in my post to him on page 1. He knows and we know.

I try to say nice until I'm either in a bad mood or someone pisses me off. You know I have been wrong with things before and I like people to correct me as I am still learning but the moment someone talks down to me or gets arrogant I get a bit angry.


I mean if guys just wanna put this as a lost cause then I'll leave, won't help, and won't come back in here. I'm just lurk and then maybe murk.

[Phate]

You guys are mean. Lets not dog on him, does that ever get people any where. No makes them close off and not want to listen and do shit anyway.

But I do agree w/ what that are trying to say seriousmass. You have some work to put in and its best if you post your diet and training, no need for the pics, we know what you look like, If you truly want to progress lets get that diet and training together, I'll help!!! mmmmkay

agreed, i'd pitch in as well

Reed,

I think so much of this is principle...

being 21

being 170 pounds

having 3-4 cycles under your belt

and hypocritically telling others to work on their diets and their lifting while one's own diet and lifting is not in check...

I maybe wrong and this provides the good medium to prove if the OP is actually 196... IMHO still very light for his hight...

I think, Reed, there would not be 7-10 members asking for pics if none of what I stated was a concern to any onf them...

so i wonder dancer, does that make me a hypocrit for giving cycle advice and such without ever having done a cycle myself?

[Mooseman33]

phate,

u are an exception bro..you really know ur shit man, hands down..
the difference is that you dont pretend to have juiced, you always tell the truth with that...
this guy is just a mess......
someone as inteligent as yourself, i know notices the differnece,,,...

[Dancer]

agreed, i'd pitch in as well



so i wonder dancer, does that make me a hypocrit for giving cycle advice and such without ever having done a cycle myself?

Phate the route you have take in consistent with the advice you give.

1) You are 20 and have never cycled; so for you to say don't cycle until 23 or 25 is a consistent statement with your life-style

2) You have never claimed as far as I have read that you have first had experience and I recall you stated on many occurances stating that you have researched the statements you make

3) It would absolutely be hypocitical for you to state don't cycle at 20 if you are cycling, if you did that then the IMHO the treatment or hordes of members that have called him out would also be justified to call you out

More over, Merrian defines hypocrite as:

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings


To practice one set of beliefs but to condemn others for practing the same set of beliefs is IMHO wrong...

As a 20 year-old if you condemned others for NOT cycling (a contradiction) that IMHO would be wrong

[Phate]

phate,

u are an exception bro..you really know ur shit man, hands down..
the difference is that you dont pretend to have juiced, you always tell the truth with that...
this guy is just a mess......
someone as inteligent as yourself, i know notices the differnece,,,...

Phate the route you have take in consistent with the advice you give.

1) You are 20 and have never cycled; so for you to say don't cycle until 23 or 25 is a consistent statement with your life-style

2) You have never claimed as far as I have read that you have first had experience and I recall you stated on many occurances stating that you have researched the statements you make

3) It would absolutely be hypocitical for you to state don't cycle at 20 if you are cycling, if you did that then the IMHO the treatment or hordes of members that have called him out would also be justified to call you out

More over, Merrian defines hypocrite as:

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings


To practice one set of beliefs but to condemn others for practing the same set of beliefs is IMHO wrong...

As a 20 year-old if you condemned others for NOT cycling (a contradiction) that IMHO would be wrong

those statements make sense, i really wasn't defensive or anything justwanting an honest opinion as i struggle sometimes with giving advice because i've never used anything so i have to rely on studies and such which we all know are great but sometimes fail in real world application

either way, thanks for the honesty guys

[ninesecz]

wow! lots of hostility on this post ha? May be already has the roid rage at a young age that would be a shame!!

[*RAGE*]

those statements make sense, i really wasn't defensive or anything justwanting an honest opinion as i struggle sometimes with giving advice because i've never used anything so i have to rely on studies and such which we all know are great but sometimes fail in real world application

either way, thanks for the honesty guys

well bro, by reading your post you would never know you have never done a cycle. In fact you have more knowledge about the use of steroids then most people I know that have done several cycles, so you must be doing something right, and keep up the outstanding job..

[Dancer]

those statements make sense, i really wasn't defensive or anything justwanting an honest opinion as i struggle sometimes with giving advice because i've never used anything so i have to rely on studies and such which we all know are great but sometimes fail in real world application

either way, thanks for the honesty guys

When I was in my mid 20s I sat through one year of A.A. to support a friend. I learned more from seeing people struggle at theiir lows than can possibly state here.

To be young and have self-doubt is a sign of maturity and enables both emotional growth and development. Here in the anonymous setting of the net one is given more latitude. Humility is a virtue unrivaled when it comes to self development.

Thread like this should stand a testament to not only others seeing hypocrisy, but standing united while engaging the individual seen as a hypocrite.

No you should not cycle at 21 (unless you just don't know any better, in the 80s and 90s we did not have the knowledge to make that statement)

No you should not weight 170 at 6'2'' and be on your 3-4 cycle.

No you should not condemn others for actions you yourself undertake.

[gymnerd]

ONLY reason i call him out is cause hes an ahole to anyone on the board who doesnt know everything he knows and the fact hes always talkin shit about what cycles hes run, ive seen him say 4, 3 and now 2. BTW his FIRST EVER cycle ended like 04/15/09 and he said he didnt run a pct and jumped right on the next cycle. BS

I agree he is very disrespectful and its not called for. I have seen him tear apart someone when he completely misunderstood the question that was being asked. He is very immature IMO. Phate you are a good dude from what I have read and are trying to help people totally different IMO.

[T-MOS]

You guys are mean. Lets not dog on him, does that ever get people any where. No makes them close off and not want to listen and do shit anyway.

But I do agree w/ what that are trying to say seriousmass. You have some work to put in and its best if you post your diet and training, no need for the pics, we know what you look like, If you truly want to progress lets get that diet and training together, I'll help!!! mmmmkay

I'm not trying to dog him, I just want to see his rationale since I have seen him hound other members who ask for cycle advice and he calls them retarded...

SO, if it's not OK for them, I want to know why being not ready and not able to reach his NATURAL potential is OK for him to take short cuts to make up for his lack of dedication to doing it CORRECTLY.... Not dogging at all

if he is gonna do it, he is gonna do it, and I will help where I can !! Just don't like the hippocracy here

[*RAGE*]

I am currently 20 years old: I am 6'2, and I weigh 169 pounds. I have been training for the past three years, and am interested in trying my first cycle. I was initially going to experiment with cycling when I was 16 years old; however, I decided to wait it out until I was finished growing / get information first. On 12-18-08

This one 01-29-09..Oh really?! What would you suggest instead? (note: I don't really eat the vector / wheatie's anymore.. I'm really liking plain-oatmeal now..)

My stats are:
Cycle experience: 1st cycle
Experience: 3 years weight lifting
Height: 6'1
Weight: 180 pounds
Body Fat: 9%
Lost an inch and gained 11 pounds…with low bf… in a month and 11 days…?

Cycle experience: 1st cycle
Experience: 3 years weight lifting
Height: 6'1
Weight: 175 pounds (I know, I'm still a little small. Flame away )
Body Fat: 7% this one on 1-6-09

YesterdayOh.. and this will be my 3rd cycle... 4 if you include an M1T cycle I did in high-school.
d.) I used D-drol (the PH) a year ago, while on a test-only cycle, and had great results with it. 12 pounds in 3 weeks. I think it'd be a nice way to conclude the cycle and enter PCT.
Age: 21

Will be 22 mid-cycle. Thanks mom.
6'2 @ 196 @ 11% BF isn't too bad bro...
First cycle: Test-E / Winstrol (discontinued during use) / D-drol

Second cycle: Test-P / Halo

**3rd** was M1T's in highschool. As I already stated at the top of my thread.

Cycle #1 - January - April... PCT 12 week test cycle takes you to the end of march pct???? It you started your second cycle in april????Cycle # 2 - April – June up till today it has been June where is the PCT for this one? What not break?

I am trying to put all this together bro, this doesn't make any sense and that I just want to understand the CORRECT information in order to give him the proper cycle advice. Not sure if your math is off but something is not adding up???

[Darksyde]

i think y'all dun scared him off now what with all yer logic n' stuff

[Sauced_Up]

WHERE ARE THES PICS!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?

[wukillabee]

what's up boys. Alright well this forum has been pretty dull recently.. So i thought i would post my next cycle for critique. Hopefully generate some convo. Lol. Anyways, i'm planning on running it 1/2 way through august, and it will conclude at the end of december basically.

(weeks 1 – 16) di-test @ 500mg ew
• 400mg/ml x 2 injections per week (0.6cc per injection)

(weeks 1 – 4) test-prop @ 500mg ew
• 100mg/ml x 3 injections per week (1.65cc per injection)

(weeks 3 – 14) npp @ 450mg ew
• 100mg/ml x 3 injections per week (1.5cc per injection)

(weeks 3 – 10) t-bol @ 60 ed
• 10mg per pill x 6 pills per day

(weeks 16 – 19 ) d-drol → prohormone
• 2 pills per day
• milk-thistle 1000mg
• hawthorne berry 1000mg
• policosinol- 20mg 2x ed

(weeks 8 – 19) hcg @ 250iu x 2 = 500iu per week

pct – post cycle therapy:

(weeks 19 – 24) nolvadex @ 40/40/30/30/20
• 10mg / pill. (3 – 6 pills per day)

(week 19 – 23) clomid @ 100/50/50/50
• 50mg / pill (1 – 2 pills per day)

(weeks 19 - 22 ) proviron @ 50/50/50
• 25mg / pill (2 pills per day)

any suggestions?

** please no stupid pictures / dumb comments like "that's a heavy cycle bro!" i'm looking for real advice, and would like to see if anyone has better ideas on how to stack these compounds **

oh.. And this will be my 3rd cycle... 4 if you include an m1t cycle i did in high-school.

wtf?

[seriousmass]

you ran 3 cycles while still in highschool? which would most likely be around the age of 18 and only gained 16 pounds?

you need to learn to eat and train bro....

and where are the new pics

Go f*ck yourself. Don’t tell me what to do you tool. I know a LOT more about nutrition, and training then ever will. IMO, you should have been banned earlier this week, you piece of crap. But I’m sure it’ll happen soon…

I NEVER ran 3 cycles in highschool you stupid f*cker.

Anyways, you need to get off the computer, and start f*cking working out bro. Your BF = “15-20% and dropping”… hahahahaha. You pathetic, fat piece of sh*t. Also, your BF% estimation is ridiculous. There is A MASSIVE difference between those two numbers.. you’re obviously in the upper range though, no doubt.

So basically IMO, you’re the one who “needs to learn to eat and train… BRO” you f*cking tool.

dont even know why people follow this post,, seriousmass is no where near ready for that cycle.

Wow. Look at all this crap. LOL. Chuck, I'm about to make you eat your words you piece of sh*t. I invite you to post pictures, right underneath mine of yourself. I'd like a little comparison, from a "vet" like you homie. Comon, post them up. Be a man, you little b*tch. (p.s. read the title of my post, you’ll like it, you f*cking deuchebag.)

Cause it will be entertaining to see how he rationalizes doing it along with the pics.....

You can go f*ck yourself too bro. You just sit here all day, “monitoring” threads, honestly WTF is your problem. I can guarantee you’re just some loser, who is draining our system for money.. you probably are on like permanent Unemployment Insurance.. else that or you’re just scamming Worker’s Comp. In any case, I can’t stand you, or your posts. IMO you should have been suspended earlier this week, for those bullsh*t comments you were writing to Bojangles & J152S (or whatever it is).

T, I don't understand why would it be hard to rationalize a 21 year-old 6'2" male @ 170lb cycling?

You’re retarded.

You guys are mean. Lets not dog on him, does that ever get people any where. No makes them close off and not want to listen and do shit anyway.

But I do agree w/ what that are trying to say seriousmass. You have some work to put in and its best if you post your diet and training, no need for the pics, we know what you look like, If you truly want to progress lets get that diet and training together, I'll help!!! mmmmkay

Bro, you have no clue what I look like. Don’t make assumptions. Also, I don’t want ANY training advice from you. It wouldn’t be worth wasting my time IMO. You’re a big guy, but you’ll never place well in competition. Just my 0.02, since you seem to have lots of opinions on me. …

(I’m not trying to say I’m bigger then you. Just saying how I feel, obviously you shouldn’t mind.)

ONLY reason i call him out is cause hes an ahole to anyone on the board who doesnt know everything he knows and the fact hes always talkin shit about what cycles hes run, ive seen him say 4, 3 and now 2. BTW his FIRST EVER cycle ended like 04/15/09 and he said he didnt run a pct and jumped right on the next cycle. BS

You’re such a goof. Actually, a complete tool.

I have already explained this earlier in the thread. Please read more carefully in the future, as I hate repeating myself. I did a cycle from Jan 1st - April. Did a PCT. did a bloodtest essentially right after the PCT... my total/free test were ALMOST in normal range, so I jumped on another cycle of halo/prop. I DID NOT WANT TO BRING THIS UP. And really, it's none of your business to be quite honest.

Bro, post up your pictures. I want to see how we size up. Because I guarantee I’m bigger. I did run a PCT you f*cking stupid sh*t. Learn how to read. Idiot.

Reed,

I think so much of this is principle...

being 21

being 170 pounds

having 3-4 cycles under your belt

and hypocritically telling others to work on their diets and their lifting while one's own diet and lifting is not in check...

I maybe wrong and this provides the good medium to prove if the OP is actually 196... IMHO still very light for his hight...

I think, Reed, there would not be 7-10 members asking for pics if none of what I stated was a concern to any onf them...

You’re an idiot. Actually an idiot. I never said I was 170 with 3 cycle. God. Learn how to f*cking read. Actually better idea, go strip for some more fat-chicks, you r*traded goof. Why are you even here? You weren’t even an active member when I did my first cycle, you might have had an account since 01, but you definitely weren’t on the boards you f*cktard.

the difference is that you dont pretend to have juiced, you always tell the truth with that...
this guy is just a mess......
someone as inteligent as yourself, i know notices the differnece,,,...

I PRETEND??? I PRETEND. OH YAH YOU F*CKING TOOL, THAT’S WHY I HAVE AN ENTIRE THREAD DETAILING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN MY FIRST CYCLE. Don’t comment on sh*t you know nothing about.

.. and stop kissing Phate’s ass. “Phate you really know your sh*t”… The sad part is that I know MUCH, MUCH more about AAS then he does; and I guarantee he will not question this comment. (actually nevermind, Phate is a know-it-all, so I bet he will comment.)

I agree he is very disrespectful and its not called for. I have seen him tear apart someone when he completely misunderstood the question that was being asked. He is very immature IMO. Phate you are a good dude from what I have read and are trying to help people totally different IMO.

you’re pinner. I blow up on people, because they ask stupid questions. And make stupid a*s comments about stuff they know NOTHING about….. kinda like yourself actually… you pinner dumba*s.

Not sure if your math is off but something is not adding up???

I think it's funny, because you're my friend; you even have commented in the past "wow buddy you really know your sh*t." on my visitor wall.

I'm becoming increasingly less a fan of you bro. I really don't know how you didn't get suspended / banned this week... I thought it was a poor choice on ADMIN's part. You were WAY out of line; and still continue to be in active threats. IMO you’re basically this boards version of syphilis.

Favoritism is a b*tch. Karma will bite u in the a*s bro.

__________________________________________________ _______________

Alright people, here's my stats. When I started cycling I was 174 pounds. Very small, that was in January. Now In July, I am 20 pounds heavier.

Current Stats:

6'2
194
13% BF

[T-MOS]

^^^ hey, this isn't the lounge. NO FLAMMING HERE !!!!

[seriousmass]

^^^ hey, this isn't the lounge. NO FLAMMING HERE !!!!

I couldn't care less bro.

Report me. I honestly don't care. lol. I'm not editing my post. I'm waiting till everyone I addressed in it reads their particular section.

[Dancer]

^^^ hey, this isn't the lounge. NO FLAMMING HERE !!!!

Agreed using the words "retarded and idiot" should be grounds to review the member's status

[T-MOS]

Go f*ck yourself. Don’t tell me what to do you tool. I know a LOT more about nutrition, and training then ever will. IMO, you should have been banned earlier this week, you piece of crap. But I’m sure it’ll happen soon…

I NEVER ran 3 cycles in highschool you stupid f*cker.

Anyways, you need to get off the computer, and start f*cking working out bro. Your BF = “15-20% and dropping”… hahahahaha. You pathetic, fat piece of sh*t. Also, your BF% estimation is ridiculous. There is A MASSIVE difference between those two numbers.. you’re obviously in the upper range though, no doubt.

So basically IMO, you’re the one who “needs to learn to eat and train… BRO” you f*cking tool.



Wow. Look at all this crap. LOL. Chuck, I'm about to make you eat your words you piece of sh*t. I invite you to post pictures, right underneath mine of yourself. I'd like a little comparison, from a "vet" like you homie. Comon, post them up. Be a man, you little b*tch. (p.s. read the title of my post, you’ll like it, you f*cking deuchebag.)



You can go f*ck yourself too bro. You just sit here all day, “monitoring” threads, honestly WTF is your problem. I can guarantee you’re just some loser, who is draining our system for money.. you probably are on like permanent Unemployment Insurance.. else that or you’re just scamming Worker’s Comp. In any case, I can’t stand you, or your posts. IMO you should have been suspended earlier this week, for those bullsh*t comments you were writing to Bojangles & J152S (or whatever it is).



You’re retarded.




Bro, you have no clue what I look like. Don’t make assumptions. Also, I don’t want ANY training advice from you. It wouldn’t be worth wasting my time IMO. You’re a big guy, but you’ll never place well in competition. Just my 0.02, since you seem to have lots of opinions on me. …

(I’m not trying to say I’m bigger then you. Just saying how I feel, obviously you shouldn’t mind.)




You’re such a goof. Actually, a complete tool.

I have already explained this earlier in the thread. Please read more carefully in the future, as I hate repeating myself. I did a cycle from Jan 1st - April. Did a PCT. did a bloodtest essentially right after the PCT... my total/free test were ALMOST in normal range, so I jumped on another cycle of halo/prop. I DID NOT WANT TO BRING THIS UP. And really, it's none of your business to be quite honest.

Bro, post up your pictures. I want to see how we size up. Because I guarantee I’m bigger. I did run a PCT you f*cking stupid sh*t. Learn how to read. Idiot.



You’re an idiot. Actually an idiot. I never said I was 170 with 3 cycle. God. Learn how to f*cking read. Actually better idea, go strip for some more fat-chicks, you r*traded goof. Why are you even here? You weren’t even an active member when I did my first cycle, you might have had an account since 01, but you definitely weren’t on the boards you f*cktard.



I PRETEND??? I PRETEND. OH YAH YOU F*CKING TOOL, THAT’S WHY I HAVE AN ENTIRE THREAD DETAILING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN MY FIRST CYCLE. Don’t comment on sh*t you know nothing about.

.. and stop kissing Phate’s ass. “Phate you really know your sh*t”… The sad part is that I know MUCH, MUCH more about AAS then he does; and I guarantee he will not question this comment. (actually nevermind, Phate is a know-it-all, so I bet he will comment.)




you’re pinner. I blow up on people, because they ask stupid questions. And make stupid a*s comments about stuff they know NOTHING about….. kinda like yourself actually… you pinner dumba*s.



I think it's funny, because you're my friend; you even have commented in the past "wow buddy you really know your sh*t." on my visitor wall.

I'm becoming increasingly less a fan of you bro. I really don't know how you didn't get suspended / banned this week... I thought it was a poor choice on ADMIN's part. You were WAY out of line; and still continue to be in active threats. IMO you’re basically this boards version of syphilis.

Favoritism is a b*tch. Karma will bite u in the a*s bro.

__________________________________________________ _______________

Alright people, here's my stats. When I started cycling I was 174 pounds. Very small, that was in January. Now In July, I am 20 pounds heavier.

Current Stats:

6'2
194
13% BF

ok, by your pics, you are TINY.....NO OFFENSE....but you have NO right talking smack to everyone the way you are.

I for one didnt' flame you...i said it will be interesting, and you proved me correct.....

I will not report this , but I should !!! the lounge is one thing, and I even made a thread just for you there where you can flame all you want if your not to scared to post in it...

but this is Q & A so change the attitude or dont' ask questions if you are not willing to accept negative answers.....

you should NOT be using steroids ...and having test levels ALMOST in normal range is NOT in the normal range and you should NOT have jumped back on

the cycles were a waste in my opinion....you could have stayed as small as you are naturally

but like you said its your body....but when you ask questions HERE, then you better expect to get opinions whether its what you want to hear or not, or dont' bother asking

PEACE

[Phate]

I couldn't care less bro.

Report me. I honestly don't care. lol. I'm not editing my post. I'm waiting till everyone I addressed in it reads their particular section.

i read my part, anything else you would like to say about me? i'm not trying to be a dick or anything, just wondering if ther is anything else you would like to point out? let it all out bro, it's good for the soul, i've got thick skin so have at it

[seriousmass]

Agreed using the words "retarded and idiot" should be grounds to review the member's status

I'm sure I'll be banned. I can't care. Proving you morons wrong is more important to me.

And please read the part I wrote specifically about you bro, it's pretty good, if I may say. HAH.

[wukillabee]

Again, WTF? I dont know how this kid thinks hes gonna call everyone out when he looks like he just started working out a week ago? Oh well, what can we do? So whens this thread getting moved to the need to have AR Hall of Shame? Thats the real question here.

[seriousmass]

i read my part, anything else you would like to say about me? i'm not trying to be a dick or anything, just wondering if ther is anything else you would like to point out? let it all out bro, it's good for the soul, i've got thick skin so have at it

You know I respect your diet advice bro. Seriously, you're really intelligent, and we have been friends on here for over half a year now. I have nothing more to say about you, but thanks for the attempted "vent" haha... .. you're a good man, honestly.

[Dancer]

You’re an idiot. Actually an idiot. I never said I was 170 with 3 cycle. God. Learn how to f*cking read. Actually better idea, go strip for some more fat-chicks, you r*traded goof. Why are you even here? You weren’t even an active member when I did my first cycle, you might have had an account since 01, but you definitely weren’t on the boards you f*cktard.

1) I love fat chicks I really do how did you know?

2) Your profile and other members on this board stated you were 170 pounds tile a yesterday when you changed your profile

3) Did I memtion I loved fat chick

4) ladies if you need love you know how to PM me

[seriousmass]

Again, WTF? I dont know how this kid thinks hes gonna call everyone out when he looks like he just started working out a week ago? Oh well, what can we do? So whens this thread getting moved to the need to have AR Hall of Shame? Thats the real question here.

20 pounds of muscle in 7 months is nothing to be ashamed of. And I'm not whatsoever.

[D7M]

this was entertaining.

[Big]

damn it's hot in here. I haven't even read the entire thread, looks like you have a nice base to build off of. more gains could be made naturally, but at least you're not one of the 6' 150lb dudes who says his diet and training is spot-on and steroids are the only answer.
can't we all just get along?