how does my cycle look

[rabidrhino2]

This will be my first cycle of test ever i have only ever used the prohormone trenadrol and i have never done injectables. How does this cycle look?

weeks 1-12 test e 500 mg/wk
weeks 1-4 dbol 30 mg/day
weeks 10-14 winny 50mg/day

i am taking the winny to cut up at the end of the cycle because i don't won't bodyfat to go out of control as i am already 15%.The fact that i have a tiny waistline and little torso makes fat show on me bad. I am thinking about loosing a little more fat before starting but i freaking hate cutting calories and i am sick of it. I plan to eat everything in site with the exception of sugar and carbs i will probably eat a ton of red meat. currently i am like 204 pounds 6 foot.

For PCT i will be taking clomid after last injection and i will take proviron throughout the whole 14 weeks to prevent bitch tit and turning into a balloon. i plan on dosing proviron at 50mg a day.
Any problems with my plans???

[Phate]

This will be my first cycle of test ever i have only ever used the prohormone trenadrol and i have never done injectables. How does this cycle look?

weeks 1-12 test e 500 mg/wk
weeks 1-4 dbol 30 mg/day
weeks 10-14 winny 50mg/day

i am taking the winny to cut up at the end of the cycle because i don't won't bodyfat to go out of control as i am already 15%.The fact that i have a tiny waistline and little torso makes fat show on me bad. I am thinking about loosing a little more fat before starting but i freaking hate cutting calories and i am sick of it. I plan to eat everything in site with the exception of sugar and carbs i will probably eat a ton of red meat. currently i am like 204 pounds 6 foot.

For PCT i will be taking clomid after last injection and i will take proviron throughout the whole 14 weeks to prevent bitch tit and turning into a balloon. i plan on dosing proviron at 50mg a day.
Any problems with my plans???

we'll get to that, but short answer, yeah

stats?
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
diet?

[rabidrhino2]

stats
age - 21
weight - like 204 currently
height - 6 foot
bf% - around 15% maybe a little more
training exp - 1 1/2 yrs
diet? - i am cutting currently to get ready for the cycle so i am eating a calorie deficit and lots of lean meats. When bulking i eat a ton of red meat and pretty much everything in sight like 7 big ass meals a day. My problem is i have never been a lean person and my waistline is tiny so when i put on any fat it looks like shit.

[Phate]

stats
age - 21
weight - like 204 currently
height - 6 foot
bf% - around 15% maybe a little more
training exp - 1 1/2 yrs
diet? - i am cutting currently to get ready for the cycle so i am eating a calorie deficit and lots of lean meats. When bulking i eat a ton of red meat and pretty much everything in sight like 7 big ass meals a day. My problem is i have never been a lean person and my waistline is tiny so when i put on any fat it looks like shit.

personally i don't think you need to cycle at all, i'm your age and haven't yet because i know i'm not ready to, btw, as of right now i'm around 5'8, 193, 12% probably, maybe a little higher, i think you can attain your goals through diet alone and i'd be willing to help you with that

could you post a pic with your face edited out so we can see what we're working with? full body would be nice(no nudes, lol)

i'd love to see your cutting diet in detail(macros included)

pct should be nolva/clomid minimum

winny will not "cut" you up, it will bring out musculature/hardness in a person that is at a low bf% already

[G4R]

Have you ever tried a planned diet?

[rabidrhino2]

i don't have a digital camera and my webcam is screwed up or i would post my pics. as far as planned diet when cutting i go low carb no sugar foods such as tuna, chicken, cheese every one in a while, skim milk you get the picture. For bulking i eat every red meat in sight along with lots of sweet potatoes and rice. I don't watch calories until i see that i am gaining fat in the mirror.

my lifts aren't great but considering i have been in for 1 1/2 years i have made huge improvement.
bench-255-7 reps(i don't max)
Squat - 315 - 6 reps(needs work)
dead - 405 - 2 reps

i know i should hold off but i am wanting to try it soooooo bad it's so damn tempting. I figured if i am going to make a stupid decision go informed rather than uninformed

[rabidrhino2]

oh i forgot to explain i am planning on loosing a little bodyfat and going on a slight calorie deficit while on the winnie. I will monitor my weight and bust my ass s i don't loose strength. many people tell me dbol makes you gain tons of waterweight and it would be nice to get that off. My overall goal is to be huge i have a friend that started test e at 18 years old and he is now 6 foot 3 275 pounds. i think it treats people differently depending on how mature you are. I have many people in my gym willing to give me advice and guidance so i don't f up

[Phate]

i don't have a digital camera and my webcam is screwed up or i would post my pics. as far as planned diet when cutting i go low carb no sugar foods such as tuna, chicken, cheese every one in a while, skim milk you get the picture. For bulking i eat every red meat in sight along with lots of sweet potatoes and rice. I don't watch calories until i see that i am gaining fat in the mirror.

my lifts aren't great but considering i have been in for 1 1/2 years i have made huge improvement.
bench-255-7 reps(i don't max)
Squat - 315 - 6 reps(needs work)
dead - 405 - 2 reps

i know i should hold off but i am wanting to try it soooooo bad it's so damn tempting. I figured if i am going to make a stupid decision go informed rather than uninformed

trust me bro i know what you're going through, i've been at this for 4 years and active on this forum for 2 years, i'm still tempted EVERY SINGLE DAY but i know that using now will cause numerous physical problems down the road so i hold off

you only have one life bro, what you do with it is yours but remember this, bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint, slow and steady wins everytime

[ninesecz]

ZA Your eatinfg schedule should not change whether or not you ar bulking / ctting. only the amount fo calories fat/ carb / pro will change. Should always eat every 2-3.5 hours regardless. and you said in the OP that you have a small waistline and every time you gain a little fat it shows?
Why would you ever be trying to gain a little fat When I am on a bulker I try try very very very hard to make sure I do not gain 1oz of fat if I can help it!! If you are thinking that during a bulker you are wanting to gain fat, then your diet still need a lot of work. and to be honest Just because you were heavier and higher in BF now you are leaner does not exactly mean you are doing something right. My sister used to e heavy now she is skinny and a size one. Did she do it right? NOT EVEN CLOSE. But she is skinny. so do not base your gains / losses on how your dies is. Please post your diet so we can pick it apart for you! If yhis is not correct your use of Steroids is not going to do much anyway!