Help

**Ktforest** · 07-13-2009, 05:29 AM

I need some help guys! I have read and researched and know what to take while running a cycle of tren an tes but wana know if anyone out there has had any experience with it and has any advice!

**G4R** · 07-13-2009, 05:48 AM

In case I missed it from an earlier thread or post you put out....

Stats-
Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF%
Diet (details please)*
PCT Knowlege
Training Exp

*Diet Summary Example:

Meal 1
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Meal 2
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 3
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 4
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 5
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 6
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Totals: Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg

**Ktforest** · 07-13-2009, 08:13 AM

Age:31
Height:6 2
Weight: 215
Bf% don't know
PCT knowledge: what is PCT?
Diet: haven't really started a consistent diet yet! But need to!
Training exp: been working out of and on for a few years but now it's time to get serious and stop playing! I really wana train seriously! Thank you for any help!

**Parabody84** · 07-13-2009, 08:26 AM

How long have u been reserchin AAS ? Everyone here will tell you do alot more resrch

**ninesecz** · 07-13-2009, 08:49 AM

You should also not be thinking about tren if this is not like your 4th or 5th cycle.

**Ktforest** · 07-13-2009, 08:50 AM

I have researched a pretty good bit and know what to take with tren and tes but I guess I just need to do more homework!

**Ktforest** · 07-13-2009, 08:53 AM

What should I start with? I have cycles deca and tes before but was stupid then and didn't do all the research I should have!

**Parabody84** · 07-13-2009, 09:00 AM

Get the diet in check first, then post ur diet, everone will tell u if ur diets not good you will just be wastein your money, plus gear, diet is one of the most important parts, good luck.

**Ktforest** · 07-13-2009, 09:11 AM

Thank u very much! Are the steroid products sold at the top of this page good and be honest? Would it be a good start fir me with a good diet?

**G4R** · 07-13-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ktforest

Age:31
Height:6 2
Weight: 215
Bf% don't know
PCT knowledge: what is PCT?
Diet: haven't really started a consistent diet yet! But need to!
Training exp: been working out of and on for a few years but now it's time to get serious and stop playing! I really wana train seriously! Thank you for any help!

I see some obvious problems here.....

As a general rule of thumb, 12% BF seems to be the magic number to start at.

PCT.... while I don't believe you are ready for any AAS, you still need to study a proper PCT for any cycle. Check out our PCT section and read read read!

But for you, Diet is where you need to start at. First, try to figure out what your goals are. Then, head to our diet section and start a new thread listing what your goals are and let us set you up a diet. You will find out real quick how dedicated you really are when you have to change your eating habits for years to come.

Maybe here in a couple of years you will be ready for AAS, but not right now.

**Big** · 07-13-2009, 01:36 PM

Your posts make less and less sense the more I read them. You have a thread you just started asking if you should get rid of the gear you have now, while asking twice so far today if you should order from the banner above. I know that "new thread" button is tempting, but slow down, do some research, and when you're ready try to make a meaningful thread instead of the same confusing questions you keep asking while seemingly ignoring all the advice you've been given. I have a feeling you have started another thread or two while I wrote this, so we can continue this discussion there...

**RANA** · 07-13-2009, 01:59 PM

Plus this is your first cycle, why the hell would you start with Tren ?

**Big** · 07-13-2009, 02:26 PM

Ok I just closed your other thread for breaking the rules then again breaking them again after warnings. You aren't off to a good start here. I still feel you're a troll, but I hope you pull your head out of your ass and prove me wrong.

**RANA** · 07-13-2009, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Ok I just closed your other thread for breaking the rules then again breaking them again after warnings. You aren't off to a good start here. I still feel you're a troll, but I hope you pull your head out of your ass and prove me wrong.

I don't think he will pull it out. I saw his last thread you closed!