what is the lowest dose to go with test e

**aldemoro** · 08-13-2009, 07:42 AM

I want to keep the sideffect low as possible so my questions are:

what is the saffest and effective dose go with test e?

what is the minimum cycle duration to see any gains from test e?

**Reed** · 08-13-2009, 07:55 AM

Well you want to at least keep it above that of a HRT patient if you'd like to see a good enough gains, no point in running what you may make naturally while shutting yourself down then having to recover.

I mean thats your choice I'd say at least 250mg a week as this is well above what one can produce naturally and you'll see gains.

But I'd go w/ 400-500mg of test e for 12 weeks

***El Diablo*** · 08-13-2009, 08:04 AM

Stats?
Age?
height?
Training Exp?

**bmit** · 08-13-2009, 08:10 AM

300 mgs to me is the sweet spot for very little if any sides while still noticeable gains. Most people run at least 400 with 500 being the most common for first few cycles. with 500mg though most people have noticeable acne and bloating. Anti-e can help with many estrogen related sides and i take propecia to help with dht sides

**swol_je** · 08-13-2009, 08:13 AM

It really depends on your cycle experience. Someone who has never touched test before should respond well to 250-300 mg, but with a few cycles under your belt you might need more.

**Lean1038** · 08-13-2009, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by swol_je

It really depends on your cycle experience. Someone who has never touched test before should respond well to 250-300 mg, but with a few cycles under your belt you might need more.

300mg is sufficient for a bulk OR cut when your diet/training are inline.

I'll never run more than that. Stacking, is another story.

**wizegui88** · 08-13-2009, 02:08 PM

at 500 you will feel amazing and get great gains... this is what i did for my first cycle

**wizegui88** · 08-13-2009, 02:09 PM

btw when on cycle enjoy the sex. It is unlike anything you have ever done before

go buy some rubbers now..The 36 packs lol.

**swol_je** · 08-13-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Lean1038

300mg is sufficient for a bulk OR cut when your diet/training are inline.

I'll never run more than that. Stacking, is another story.

You will never run over 300 mg of a single compound? Most people wont run below 300-400.

**ninesecz** · 08-13-2009, 02:13 PM

I say 350-500mg EW. 350mg is probably a good starting dosage for app. 12weeks in duration. You will still need to make sure you have proper PCT ready so you can recover yourself when the cycle is over

**aldemoro** · 08-14-2009, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

I say 350-500mg EW. 350mg is probably a good starting dosage for app. 12weeks in duration. You will still need to make sure you have proper PCT ready so you can recover yourself when the cycle is over

Its going to be my second cycle if i start. at 500 mg a week of test e i got gains but when i finished with my 16 week cycle and started pct i lost nearly everything and also got some hair on my sholders back and chest i think test is not a good idea for me. I think because its highly androgenic . So can i go with another coumpond and drop test?

also do you mean 500mg a week and when you take the ester out wich is 30% 350mg so we shoot 350 mg of test everthime we use the 500mg

**Lean1038** · 08-14-2009, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by swol_je

You will never run over 300 mg of a single compound? Most people wont run below 300-400.

No... I'd never run more than 300mg of weekly Test. Stacking is a different story as stated above.

**spooledup** · 08-14-2009, 09:45 AM

I will only run 250/wk. Used to run 500/wk.

I like the leaner/quality gains of EQ.

I may even drop the test down to 125/wk in the future.

**ninesecz** · 08-14-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by aldemoro

Its going to be my second cycle if i start. at 500 mg a week of test e i got gains but when i finished with my 16 week cycle and started pct i lost nearly everything and also got some hair on my sholders back and chest i think test is not a good idea for me. I think because its highly androgenic . So can i go with another coumpond and drop test?

also do you mean 500mg a week and when you take the ester out wich is 30% 350mg so we shoot 350 mg of test everthime we use the 500mg

No Iwas basically saying anywhere between 350mg and 500mg a week is fine! There is really nothing that can replace test. other things work good but they are not test. test has to be the "base" of any cycle Do not run the cycle for 16 only run 12 that could have caused your issue with loss of gains

**TITANIUM** · 08-14-2009, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

No Iwas basically saying anywhere between 350mg and 500mg a week is fine! There is really nothing that can replace test. other things work good but they are not test. test has to be the "base" of any cycle Do not run the cycle for 16 only run 12 that could have caused your issue with loss of gains

I agree.

Some people think that longer cycles will produce more gains.

When infact, you will plateau, and be wasting the gear.

What did your pct plan look like?

**spooledup** · 08-14-2009, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

test has to be the "base" of any cycle

Wrong. Horrible advice.

**Polska** · 08-14-2009, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

Wrong. Horrible advice.

Care to elaborate your reasoning?

**The Deuce** · 08-14-2009, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

I will only run 250/wk. Used to run 500/wk.

I like the leaner/quality gains of EQ.

I may even drop the test down to 125/wk in the future.

HAHAHAHA, EQ DOES NOT PRODUCE ANY MUSCLE TISSUE WHATSOEVER !! Nothing, nada, zilch, zero !! Go ahead drop that test to 125mgs.. smart move.. with the ester attached YOU MIGHT GET WHAT YOU NATURALLY PRODUCE out of it....

Originally Posted by spooledup

Wrong. Horrible advice.

OK SIR, Please tell me which cycle out there WILL NOT SURPRESS YOUR NATURAL TEST LEVELS??

WHAT COMPOUND??

Which compound out there allows us to consume it and gain muscle tissue while still keeping our natural TESTOSTERONE online???

Whats that??

You don't know?? Oh that's right... NONE OF THEM !!!!!!

Test is a base and a must have for each and every cycle at minimal for TRT dosing.. so your Penis stays in working condition.. in case you like that limp noodle feeling...

I am tired of hearing about all this whining about SIDES... if you do not like the side effects of AAS and are not prepared to deal with them if they come along.. AND THEY WILL !! Then do NOT use the compounds.. That simple really..

None of this.. I dont like ACNE what can I take??
I dont like Bloat... what can I TAKE??
I dont want my hair to fall out.. what can I take??

Get over it.. please !!

I am seriously not trying to sound like a dick here.. even though that is EXACTLY HOW I AM COMING OFF RIGHT NOW.. but seriously.. enough whining.. GET OUT THERE AND LIFT !!!

**aldemoro** · 08-15-2009, 02:51 AM

No i just wanted to keep the side effects to a minimum thats why i asked wheter i could go for 8 weeks cycle and 250mg a week will i still have gains?? Or shall i front load??

Also i dont want to be sexual function whats so ever i can go without sex for 2, 3 months