Roids in high impact sports

**Messy44** · 08-26-2009, 03:47 PM

so i have done 2 cycles of winstrol and completly loved it for football. nice increases and .2 off the 40 times.

its been over a year since i hae cycles and kinda wanna do another one.

i was thinking a 12 weeker of EQ and a 6 weeker of winny.

recenty ijust heard winny is bad for high impact sports such as football, so i come here for a little help.

any suggestions for a good football cycle? something that isnt ganna pull/tear my hammys when im haulin balls down the field. and something that isnt ganna make me huge and slow.

im looking for something that will give me excelent strength gains without making me ridiculously huge, and something that will be good for my speed, either keep it the same or increase it.

im open to whatever, thank you very much people.

**ninesecz** · 08-26-2009, 03:53 PM

Winny is really bad for your joints especially as you get older.. I would like to see your stats firt but I am thinking maybe a good ole' cycle of just test would be right up your alley

**Matt** · 08-26-2009, 03:54 PM

Welcome.

We need stats please

Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
Training history???

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 08-26-2009, 06:26 PM

what level of football do you play?

**AnabolicApocalypse** · 08-26-2009, 09:41 PM

I agree with ninsecz. Test will make you a madman on the field.

**Baron** · 08-27-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

Winny is really bad for your joints especially as you get older.. I would like to see your stats firt but I am thinking maybe a good ole' cycle of just test would be right up your alley

do you have any experience as an athlete by any chance? Do you know that test decreases collagen synthesis which is the opposite of what he would want during the season.

**Dog-Slime** · 08-27-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

do you have any experience as an athlete by any chance? Do you know that test decreases collagen synthesis which is the opposite of what he would want during the season.

Any proof of this?

**sizerp** · 08-27-2009, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

do you have any experience as an athlete by any chance? Do you know that test decreases collagen synthesis which is the opposite of what he would want during the season.

Then shoot 100mg of Deca alongside your test EW. That should not only negate the so called claim that test decreases collagen synth, but also help BOOST it.

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dog-Slime

Any proof of this?

are you serious?

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by sizerp

Then shoot 100mg of Deca alongside your test EW. That should not only negate the so called claim that test decreases collagen synth, but also help BOOST it.

no, thats not nearly enough deca to "BOOST it", assuming ofcourse the test dose is adequate. You'd haveto inject around 400-500mg of deca and then run test at half that as a maintenance dose.

**gymnerd** · 08-29-2009, 06:46 PM

First things first here. What are your complete stats like 007 asked and do you get tested?

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

First things first here. What are your complete stats like 007 asked and do you get tested?

no offense nerd but aside from asking if he gets tested thats completely irrelevant.

**gymnerd** · 08-29-2009, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

no offense nerd but aside from asking if he gets tested thats completely irrelevant.

I am getting to a point what are you getting at? It is not irrelevant unless you can tell what is going through my mind? Things are really starting to go downhill IMO.

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

I am getting to a point what are you getting at? It is not irrelevant unless you can tell what is going through my mind? Things are really starting to go downhill IMO.

so please, enlighten us...

**gymnerd** · 08-29-2009, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

so please, enlighten us...

I am not talking to you shitstain so stfu, are you enlighned now?

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

I am not talking to you shitstain so stfu, are you enlighned now?

nope, but you seem like a pretty angry little dude.

**gymnerd** · 08-29-2009, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

nope, but you seem like a pretty angry little dude.

OK whatever sunshine. And what is your contribution to this thread? Or should I say reason for questioning me when you have no clue?

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

OK whatever sunshine.

oh, so now you try to change it up on me. You sly, sly, fox.

**gymnerd** · 08-29-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

oh, so now you try to change it up on me. You sly, sly, fox.

Dude, honestly what is your point? I will gladly discuss it with you if only you would just say it. Or are you just a troll which I think so but I will give you the benefit of the doughty.

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

Dude, honestly what is your point? I will gladly discuss it with you if only you would just say it. Or are you just a troll which I think so but I will give you the benefit of the doughty.

Not only are you intellectually a novice, but you are also a novice to this board. Therefore, you are the troll.

**gymnerd** · 08-29-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

Not only are you intellectually a novice, but you are also a novice to this board. Therefore, you are the troll.

\HaHa really? I swear to god that is the weakest argument I have heard in a while. If I were you I would just crawl back into my hole and lick my wounds and come back out with some sense. This is the Q/A right not the lounge? I mean WTF is this guy even getting at?

**Baron** · 08-29-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

\HaHa really? I swear to god that is the weakest argument I have heard in a while. If I were you I would just crawl back into my hole and lick my wounds and come back out with some sense. This is the Q/A right not the lounge? I mean WTF is this guy even getting at?

where are these "arguments" you speak of. Im not arguing anything, you're just mad.

Remember: I know you better than you know yourself. My advanced understanding of psychology and apparent insight is something inconceivable to you.

**gymnerd** · 08-29-2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

where are these "arguments" you speak of. Im not arguing anything, you're just mad.

Remember: I know you better than you know yourself. My advanced understanding of psychology and apparent insight is something inconceivable to you.

haha Ok pal LMMFAO. Your not `mad I will give you that but you are here to stirr shit and that is a troll buddy.

**terraj** · 08-30-2009, 06:33 AM

WTF is wrong with you two?

Go play kiddy games somewhere else!

**Dog-Slime** · 08-30-2009, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

are you serious?

Yes I am very serious. Please post proof.

**Baron** · 08-31-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Dog-Slime

Yes I am very serious. Please post proof.

I am sorry but this blight of ignorance cannot be fixed by simply posting a few links. You need some help at the institutional level.

**alex18** · 08-31-2009, 01:04 PM

jesus...keep your biatching to PM's!

**Dog-Slime** · 08-31-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

I am sorry but this blight of ignorance cannot be fixed by simply posting a few links. You need some help at the institutional level.

I have never seen any real evidence of this. Only an "article" that is something a guy from some board posted up with no references and is poorly written.