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    Haha, I was explaining to him the free equivalents in his other thread as well in regards to NPP's heavy ester weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Haha, I was explaining to him the free equivalents in his other thread as well in regards to NPP's heavy ester weight.
    yep. thanks to you and VM for the info

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    what about npp and women?! how virilising is it? could a chick run it by itself?

    just asking to learn.. not planning to cycle yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolffish View Post
    what about npp and women?! how virilising is it? could a chick run it by itself?

    just asking to learn.. not planning to cycle yet.
    Nandrolone , no matter the ester, is too harsh for a woman.
    I would never contemplate to use it on my wife.
    Be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    hey VM, what do you think would be the optimal dose for someone who is using NPP for the first time? Like for test, it's 500mg, etc...
    I just ran 450/wk and loved the results... next time around I will drop the tren and bump the NPP to 600

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolffish View Post
    what about npp and women?! how virilising is it? could a chick run it by itself?

    just asking to learn.. not planning to cycle yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Nandrolone , no matter the ester, is too harsh for a woman.
    I would never contemplate to use it on my wife.
    Be careful.
    I'd have to agree with BJJ on whether a woman "should" use Nandrolone... but I also know a couple women who use it successfully and I would think that I would sooner run the NPP over conventional Deca .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    Nandrolone , no matter the ester, is too harsh for a woman.
    I would never contemplate to use it on my wife.
    Be careful.
    As a matter of fact NPP is very common among women bodybuilders. 50mg PW is usually what most of them opt for. But you are correct, the severe masculinizing side effects such as thickening of the jawline and deepening of the voice are very common. No no in my book if I were to get my girl on gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolffish View Post
    what about npp and women?! how virilising is it? could a chick run it by itself?

    just asking to learn.. not planning to cycle yet.
    Nandrolone is one of the most common compounds used by women.

    That said, what are your goals Wolf-fish? Are you competing? powerlifting? or is this just recreational?

    Women will use about 50 - 100mg/wk with little to no virilization symptoms.

    However, don't push your luck. I caution you that anything >100mg/wk can lead to androgenic -caused side effects... which can be... well to put it simply.. very gnarly.

    If you do choose to use this compound then I would probably lean towards pharma-grade nandrolone-deconate (deca ).

    The reason I say this is because I'm almost positive that no pharmeutical companies are producing NPP right now. With women it is absolutely CRUCIAL that the doses you are injecting are exact.

    Therefore, going with UGL NPP would not be a good option, because dosing isn't regulated.

    IMO, go with something trust-worthy, and something with a very low concentration. I would lean towards companies like Organon Holand Chemical, or Norma Greece Chemical -- both produce a Deca product @ 100mg/ml

    That's an easy dose to control, and ideal for women.

    If you're just looking for a compound to help compliment your physique then I would go down the anavar route. It's much easier, and less chance of sides.

    Hope that helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    As a matter of fact NPP is very common among women bodybuilders. 50mg PW is usually what most of them opt for. But you are correct, the severe masculinizing side effects such as thickening of the jawline and deepening of the voice are very common.
    That's only dosages >100mg/wk. But yes, then those irreversible androgenic sides can definitely arise.

    -VM

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    great job

    That was a real good write up.Been thinking of trying npp.Just havnt done so.Beacuse I love tren so much.But I am going to give it a shot.

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    One of the big side effects of deca is Deca Dick

    Does NPP have this same effect?
    and if it does is it called NPP Dick (no penis popping Dick)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy.Boy View Post
    One of the big side effects of deca is Deca Dick

    Does NPP have this same effect?
    and if it does is it called NPP Dick (no penis popping Dick)
    Nice. And yes the same would still apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy.Boy View Post
    One of the big side effects of deca is Deca Dick

    Does NPP have this same effect?
    and if it does is it called NPP Dick (no penis popping Dick)
    Well it's the exact same compound... so yes.

    Some find that particular side inevitable, others rarely experience the E.D. symptoms.

    In any case, Cialis/Viagra. Problem solved.

    -VM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Well it's the exact same compound... so yes.

    Some find that particular side inevitable, others rarely experience the E.D. symptoms.

    In any case, Cialis/Viagra. Problem solved.

    -VM
    I thought that the shorter half life may help a bit with the problem. guess not

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    late response, sorry to dig this up.. my goals would be recreational, build more muscle, get much stronger, look hot..

    back working with a trainer to make back what i've lost of the last few months, expect i wouldn't do high doses if i gave it a try, just doing my research and learning what i can.. so much of the info round here is geared towards you blokes (not complaining, there's heaps more guys here than girls!)

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