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    I hardly doubt he is a cop..of all the years I been on the boards, I have yet to see someone openly admit on an open forum that they are cop. Sure they are on here.

    Common sense says he is want to be cop to gain respect. Sorry but why you want to openly admit your a cop and you do juice?,,,,Do you not know these boards log IP and passwords and what not....takes once person to really hate the police and hack into here and get your details if need be. I call bullshit unless I see proof. oh by the way I'm a cop too

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    dont take it personal - if you are a cop, becarful cuz if you not and you say you are on a forum like this it could lead to other issues...

    back to what i was saying... being a cop and useing drugs/steroids make you a slight hypocrite... im not flaming you, as a matter of a fact i would much rather have a cop on the juice in shape that could protect me than a 300 lbs fat cop that can bearly get out of his /her car to chase some criminal.


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    Most of the arguments here about this drug and that drug being harmful and what not shouldnt be aimed toward the police. We don't get paid to make laws, we get paid to enforce them. its not us who decides what is illegal and isn't. Take that up with government officials. And yes there are bad cops, there are bad people in any professions. Dr. who give rxs to people who don't actually need the drugs, Teachers who sleep with their students, White collared business men who do insider trading...you'll get that in EVERY profession. Law Enforcement is the only job that has the authority to take a life, safe a life and bring a life into this world. I have done 2 of the 3 (delivered a baby and have brought someone back to life with cpr and saved a woman from her husband who beat her half to death with a lead pipe) you tell her that we don't keep people safe and you tell all the police officers who have ever died while doing their job to protect complete strangers that their job is bullshit. Sorry this touches close to home but I respect every person who goes to work with the chance that they might not come home at the end of their shift. And as far as tickets go, obey the laws of the road and you wouldn't have to worry about getting a "bullshit" ticket.

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    what kinda proof do you want...you name it and i'll provide it. And obviously doesn't matter being a cop...not many people give respect to people on here anyways...

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    man im with u there not from this world all of them r on a power trip.there are way better things for them to do stay out of the things that they no nothing about.just want to controll every thing there just the kids that got picked on at school trying to get back at the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Man View Post
    Agreed. What business is it of the Governments to decide what I do with my own body so long as i do not harm another human being?

    Government tells me it's okay to drink alcohol and to smoke cigarettes, but when I want to use a chemical to enhance my body instead of destroy it, then it becomes illegal. Nonsense.
    What do you mean? Of course it's their business. If you are middle or upper class American it means they can drag you over the coals and charge you a LOT of your hard earned income. Now if you are a real druggie and have not money to speak of they dont usually bother you and just walk on by.

    Cops defiantly are a necessary evil but WAY to many of them are only glorified ticket maids and like to through there weight around, which is normal about 60lbs+ to much.

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    I work the front door at a club and 99% of the cops I work with (on detail duty) are cool as shit and have blinders on to whats going on. I have been pulled over by that newbie cop who is a POS and cuffs me... pats me down and searches my car because I paused for 2.9 seconds at a stop sign but everything balances out in life. Think of how many times you were doing 20 over in front of the cop with visors on and they let it slide. Be mad at the system for making those cops raid your house and finding AAS that shouldn't be illegal, not at the cops.

    With all the talk of making pot legal in CA I wonder if a state could ever get AAS legalized for enhancements...

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    Well I'm not going to embarrass you more or jeopardize your job if you really are cop by asking for a picture of you in your uniform in the police station you work at holding up a paper with the todays date on it lol A little extreme I think, just to prove so. I'm not going to ask you for your badge number as we all know your not allowed to hand it out or show for no reason especially a place like this . So maybe since your the one who is saying your a cop and posting on such boards, maybe you can suggest a way you can prove so? I have nothing agaisn't cops as I have lots of freinds who are and know more then enough on how the system works....

    Quote Originally Posted by E Police 183 View Post
    what kinda proof do you want...you name it and i'll provide it. And obviously doesn't matter being a cop...not many people give respect to people on here anyways...

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    I would go as far as pming you the number to my department and you can call and ask for me...as long as its only to verify my employment

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    as long as its only to verify my employment? No I thought I ask you out on a date No offence, but like I said allot of people know cops, just as easy for me to give my friend as cop a call and say, heads up a guy will be calling you asking you to verify you employment...do some small talk and thats it.

    it's alright bro, I will take your word for it. Happy cycling just hope nobody finds out and rats you out, as I know here, the local city Police and O.P.P do not tolerate there members using juice. I personally see nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't affect your job. Test is best and makes you feel great and on top of the world,,,,not road rage per say like some say, but cocky instead. We don't need anymore cocky cops out there

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    I would go as far as pming you the number to my department and you can call and ask for me...as long as its only to verify my employment

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Corvino View Post
    I work the front door at a club and 99% of the cops I work with (on detail duty) are cool as shit and have blinders on to whats going on. I have been pulled over by that newbie cop who is a POS and cuffs me... pats me down and searches my car because I paused for 2.9 seconds at a stop sign but everything balances out in life. Think of how many times you were doing 20 over in front of the cop with visors on and they let it slide. Be mad at the system for making those cops raid your house and finding AAS that shouldn't be illegal, not at the cops.

    With all the talk of making pot legal in CA I wonder if a state could ever get AAS legalized for enhancements...
    i agree with corvinos point of view so x2

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    Quote Originally Posted by E Police 183 View Post
    I would go as far as pming you the number to my department and you can call and ask for me...as long as its only to verify my employment
    Come on now, this is silly. Why would you go so far as to have some stranger call your place of employment to prove you are a cop? If you truly are a cop (and I believe that you probably are) then you don't need to go out of your way to prove it to strangers on an anonymous bodybuilding forum. lol. A truly cool person does not need to go out of his way to prove to everyone he is cool. He just is lol.

    By getting all defensive and trying to prove yourself to a bunch of strangers when they say silly insignificant things to you, you are only validating everyones idea that cops are insecure people who build themselves up by being bullies. I'm sure you are probably a cool cop, so lets end this petty bickering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ted666 View Post
    ^you expecting the cops to possibly show up with a search warrant any time soon or in the future?^
    Nope. Just stays sealed up nice and hidden for family too haha.

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    yea i should of locked it up better...... but i didnt expect that i would be raided why should i, and about it being hard to get a search warrants, i dont no what country u all are from but here in adelaide, australia, we have had big probs with bikies(gangs) and they have made it very easy obtain them, they can sit in there car and get them faxed through...... wow didnt expect this thread to be a big cop hateing 1 but since it is.... **** the POLICE......

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    Quote Originally Posted by E Police 183 View Post
    I would go as far as pming you the number to my department and you can call and ask for me...as long as its only to verify my employment

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    Quote Originally Posted by E Police 183 View Post
    Most of the arguments here about this drug and that drug being harmful and what not shouldnt be aimed toward the police. We don't get paid to make laws, we get paid to enforce them. its not us who decides what is illegal and isn't. Take that up with government officials. And yes there are bad cops, there are bad people in any professions. Dr. who give rxs to people who don't actually need the drugs, Teachers who sleep with their students, White collared business men who do insider trading...you'll get that in EVERY profession. Law Enforcement is the only job that has the authority to take a life, safe a life and bring a life into this world. I have done 2 of the 3 (delivered a baby and have brought someone back to life with cpr and saved a woman from her husband who beat her half to death with a lead pipe) you tell her that we don't keep people safe and you tell all the police officers who have ever died while doing their job to protect complete strangers that their job is bullshit. Sorry this touches close to home but I respect every person who goes to work with the chance that they might not come home at the end of their shift. And as far as tickets go, obey the laws of the road and you wouldn't have to worry about getting a "bullshit" ticket.
    MY 2 BROTHER INLAWS TALK THAT BS, bout i might not come home today and i have a gun, so i tell them i carry a bigger and better gun and they should of got a better job than that if there were worried on not coming home, you think i would leave my kids fatherless for 40k a year

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    Damn if thats all your PD department guys are getting paid.. Then that is crap and they are getting fu*ked. My cousin started at 65k a year. In ten year 100k+

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM6 View Post
    MY 2 BROTHER INLAWS TALK THAT BS, bout i might not come home today and i have a gun, so i tell them i carry a bigger and better gun and they should of got a better job than that if there were worried on not coming home, you think i would leave my kids fatherless for 40k a year
    hahaha i second this!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-Z View Post
    Damn if thats all your PD department guys are getting paid.. Then that is crap and they are getting fu*ked. My cousin started at 65k a year. In ten year 100k+
    wow thats huge pay in oz, you can leave school in year ten and get a job with police, they all get paid crap...... u should of seen how jelous they were of my stuff around the house it was hilarious!!!! then the pigs in there search pulled all my chicks lingerie out and spread it over the bed. she was not impressed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-Z View Post
    Damn if thats all your PD department guys are getting paid.. Then that is crap and they are getting fu*ked. My cousin started at 65k a year. In ten year 100k+
    yep county is 38k and city starts at 40k, you can work up til 65k with a shit load of OT

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    Damn that is garbage... But then again.... NJ is also a higher paid place since it is higher cost of living. I pay 3000 a year to insure my camaro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E Police 183 View Post
    what kinda proof do you want...you name it and i'll provide it. And obviously doesn't matter being a cop...not many people give respect to people on here anyways...
    Dude, I know it's tough sometimes but dont take it to personal. These comments are not really aimed at you only the few that bad apples that make everyone look bad.

    Ive knows a few cops that where just normal people and really cool but also a few that where total dicks like most that work in my neighborhood who try to intimidate ALL the kids in our area and be general bad ass. I'm about 1 more comment away from filing a complaint on at least one of them for harassing my daughter.

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    lol, yea ill give you my number to my department and you can call to verify employement. wow i hope they dont let someone that unintelligent carry a gun.

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    I guarantee that everyone that placed their first steroid order, or got it from the guy at the gym had 2 things going thru their minds. One, is this shit real. And two, i hope i don't get busted. Maybe it was the other way around for some. Regardless, i'd bet my last dollar that none of you threw your stash away in fear of being busted by the cops. You chose to go ahead and take the risk. So did i. We do it everyday. So to talk shit about cops is crazy. We're the ones that break the laws occasionally.
    Now i agree that there are some cops who are pricks. No doubt about it. But there also cool ones. And E Police is right. They (cops) don't make the laws, they just enforce them. So, we have a choice. If you choose to use, that's your decision. Just understand the consequences.
    It all goes back to the simple saying: If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
    That being said, i generally hate the fvckin cops. But i'm man enough to take it on the chin if i do get busted. No one put a gun to my head. I make my own decisions.
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    no cops are going to raid ur house for personal stash of juice.
    this guy got raided cause they had something on him for other drugs. no 2 ways about it.
    the OP got sloppy and got nailed, it happens.
    i refuse to ever worry about having gear in my house, i dont make it, sell it.
    if u live a lifestyle that causes attention ie, drug dealer, u will most likely get nailed.
    oh yeah, i really hate cops..but the OP could be one of the dumbest posters on this site, if they got a warrant to raid ur house, they can track ur internet sht, and see where u just admitted to having those compounds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    The fact of the matter is that cops are paid to uphold the law..... as much as the laws against steroids suck..... they're doing their job.

    In a sense, yes, a cop is a hypocrite for using steroids and busting someone for them also..... but then again..... what is he going to do? If he's alone could he look the other way? Possibly. If he's not alone - he can't just not arrest you..... what's he going to say? "Uh.... I do steroids..... it would really be hypocritial of me to arrest this guy"

    He's putting food on his table just like you are doing whatever it is you do. Them "protecting" us while we sleep is a bit of a stretch LOL but regarding the OP's specific case..... You must have been doing SOMETHING very obviouse for them to get a warant to search your place..... This is why I don't advertise to people what I'm doing.

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    The whole cops are just doing their job arguement is BS. They chose their job, knowing that they would have to be a hypocrite to perform their duties. I've quit jobs that I needed because I had a moral objection to practices of the company I worked for. No-one says a heroin dealer is just doing his job.

    And it seems to me like these cop bashing threads always start from some dick head cop running his mouth. If you are a cop and you break any of the laws that you enforce then you are pure scum. There is no grey area. There is no good excuse. If you can't obey the law, you can't enforce it. This is why so many people have no respect for cops. A cop like the one who posted in this thread is a liar. He can not be trusted. He should not have his job. That goes for all cops who use steroids or any other illegal substance.

    Honest cops are great, however they are very rare. I don't agree with a lot of laws, so I wouldn't be a cop. If a cop who obeys all laws arrests me or fines me, that is fair. OTOH that cop writing you a ticket for going 10 miles over the speed limit and then speeds home from work is an asshole and deserves all the distain that he gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E Police 183 View Post
    Most of the arguments here about this drug and that drug being harmful and what not shouldnt be aimed toward the police. We don't get paid to make laws, we get paid to enforce them. its not us who decides what is illegal and isn't. Take that up with government officials. And yes there are bad cops, there are bad people in any professions. Dr. who give rxs to people who don't actually need the drugs, Teachers who sleep with their students, White collared business men who do insider trading...you'll get that in EVERY profession. Law Enforcement is the only job that has the authority to take a life, safe a life and bring a life into this world. I have done 2 of the 3 (delivered a baby and have brought someone back to life with cpr and saved a woman from her husband who beat her half to death with a lead pipe) you tell her that we don't keep people safe and you tell all the police officers who have ever died while doing their job to protect complete strangers that their job is bullshit. Sorry this touches close to home but I respect every person who goes to work with the chance that they might not come home at the end of their shift. And as far as tickets go, obey the laws of the road and you wouldn't have to worry about getting a "bullshit" ticket.
    So I hope you respect the hookers who risk their lives everytime they go to work.

    I never realized how much cops are like whores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E Police 183 View Post
    Most of the arguments here about this drug and that drug being harmful and what not shouldnt be aimed toward the police. We don't get paid to make laws, we get paid to enforce them. its not us who decides what is illegal and isn't. Take that up with government officials. And yes there are bad cops, there are bad people in any professions. Dr. who give rxs to people who don't actually need the drugs, Teachers who sleep with their students, White collared business men who do insider trading...you'll get that in EVERY profession. Law Enforcement is the only job that has the authority to take a life, safe a life and bring a life into this world. I have done 2 of the 3 (delivered a baby and have brought someone back to life with cpr and saved a woman from her husband who beat her half to death with a lead pipe) you tell her that we don't keep people safe and you tell all the police officers who have ever died while doing their job to protect complete strangers that their job is bullshit. Sorry this touches close to home but I respect every person who goes to work with the chance that they might not come home at the end of their shift. And as far as tickets go, obey the laws of the road and you wouldn't have to worry about getting a "bullshit" ticket.
    Its also one of the easiest jobs to get away with doing things illegally to some extent.. Cops love juice more than regular fitness enthusiasts.. Its like they actually encourage the use of juice for their team mates.. Basically, Cops can hide in the grey area when it comes to the law.. It makes me sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Corvino View Post
    I work the front door at a club and 99% of the cops I work with (on detail duty) are cool as shit and have blinders on to whats going on. I have been pulled over by that newbie cop who is a POS and cuffs me... pats me down and searches my car because I paused for 2.9 seconds at a stop sign but everything balances out in life. Think of how many times you were doing 20 over in front of the cop with visors on and they let it slide. Be mad at the system for making those cops raid your house and finding AAS that shouldn't be illegal, not at the cops.

    With all the talk of making pot legal in CA I wonder if a state could ever get AAS legalized for enhancements...
    legalizing pot, yes thats not to far away. But legalizing steroids , NEVER! Remember, I truly believe the government does not want anybody having a physical advantage over man "un-naturally" unless they allow it. I know a few Marines who actually say they don't look down upon juice in the military, it's encouraged as long as you don't get caught buying. Basically, the government never want us citizens to have any advantage over them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman33 View Post
    no cops are going to raid ur house for personal stash of juice.
    This guy got raided cause they had something on him for other drugs. No 2 ways about it.
    The op got sloppy and got nailed, it happens.
    I refuse to ever worry about having gear in my house, i dont make it, sell it.
    If u live a lifestyle that causes attention ie, drug dealer, u will most likely get nailed.
    Oh yeah, i really hate cops..but the op could be one of the dumbest posters on this site, if they got a warrant to raid ur house, they can track ur internet sht, and see where u just admitted to having those compounds....
    agreed 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnq View Post
    i fu*king hate the police. a little prick nicked my car, left a half smoked cigerette in there with his DNA on it the police took it for forensics, they told me his name but they didnt have enough evidence to lock him up w*nkers
    Sorry to hear that mate, i just wanted to come in here to explain why there wasnt enough evidence. I work in forensics and people get away with all sorts even though their DNA is at the scene. What you have to consider is that the cig found is a mobile object, it doesnt place him inside the vehicle, it simply means the DNA originated from the suspect...how the cig got in your car is argumentative as its a mobile object.

    DNA unfortunatly doesnt holdup very well if its on a movable object. If they got DNA from the steering wheel, or gear stick that would be more powerful.

    Hope this makes sense.

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    mooseman if i dont admit that it was gear and i plead not guilty they will make it a trial, if i plead guilty and say it was gear ill get a small fine if they are reading this i dont care, ppl are missing the point im up set because they took my gear that was sohard to round up(in adelaide), even though they looked like juice heads....

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    Quote Originally Posted by underworldmagic View Post
    Sorry to hear that mate, i just wanted to come in here to explain why there wasnt enough evidence. I work in forensics and people get away with all sorts even though their DNA is at the scene. What you have to consider is that the cig found is a mobile object, it doesnt place him inside the vehicle, it simply means the DNA originated from the suspect...how the cig got in your car is argumentative as its a mobile object.

    DNA unfortunatly doesnt holdup very well if its on a movable object. If they got DNA from the steering wheel, or gear stick that would be more powerful.

    Hope this makes sense.
    How much is the cost to do a DNA profile on a person. I know when we did DNA testing on microbes for cloning and phylogenetic tree building,it was a shitload per test relatively speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfalco View Post
    The whole cops are just doing their job arguement is BS. They chose their job, knowing that they would have to be a hypocrite to perform their duties. I've quit jobs that I needed because I had a moral objection to practices of the company I worked for. No-one says a heroin dealer is just doing his job.

    And it seems to me like these cop bashing threads always start from some dick head cop running his mouth. If you are a cop and you break any of the laws that you enforce then you are pure scum. There is no grey area. There is no good excuse. If you can't obey the law, you can't enforce it. This is why so many people have no respect for cops. A cop like the one who posted in this thread is a liar. He can not be trusted. He should not have his job. That goes for all cops who use steroids or any other illegal substance.

    Honest cops are great, however they are very rare. I don't agree with a lot of laws, so I wouldn't be a cop. If a cop who obeys all laws arrests me or fines me, that is fair. OTOH that cop writing you a ticket for going 10 miles over the speed limit and then speeds home from work is an asshole and deserves all the distain that he gets.
    The politicians don't respect the people they are elected to serve. The cops play their game, apply the law selectively and many lie, cheat and steal, while they hide under the veil of immunity. Our nation is corrupt from the top down.

    When our corruption becomes so bad that it threatens the fabric of society, then it may change. California politicians are considering the legalization of marijuana because they can no longer afford to support all their corrupt institutions.

    I wonder how bad it's going to get in the United States before people change the way we are governed. All these political solutions that include creating and funding wars all over the world, imprisoning citizens for victimless crime and creating a justice system which deny the jury their right to judge the law as well as the guilt of the accused, serve those who seek to profit without regard for serving justice and obeying our constitution.

    They say it is darkest right before dawn. I wonder how dark it will get before Americans do something to fix their broken political system.

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    OP was doing something wrong to get a warrant on his arse

    My uncle is a retired trooper.........

    They are human....

    There in lies any and all fault..........They are not machines, yet.

    IN all good there is a little bad................ALL.........

    Stop hatin the law, they piss me off too, but they are just doing there shitty job........

    They see the absolute worst in human beings........Try it for a week, then get back to me..........

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    plz understand two things about cops:

    (1) NO, they are not a typically cross section of society. the whole "there are good and bad in every occupation" does NOT apply as much to cops. the truth is: constant exposure to negative human behavior and COUNTLESS decomposing bodies DOES make the average man more cynical and desensitized toward human suffering. so, YES there will always be a higher rate of "assholes" in L.E. compared to Lab Techs, biologists, etc.

    (2) MOST cops realize you can protect yourself, unless your a wimp, in which case they really don't care that much cuz we all get what we earn/deserve. Most cops do not think they are truly protecting YOU (the average gear head that could squash half the men around him). They feel they are here to protect your wives, when they go to the grocery store (without you). They feel they are here to protect your children, while they're standing at a bus stop (without you). Here to protect your car, while you go inside and get some sleep. most cops realize a REAL man can TCB (take care of business), they just know you got things to do (many jobs are necessary in society) and want you to have some peace mind that bangers aren't pillaging the home front while you're away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimInAK View Post
    The politicians don't respect the people they are elected to serve. The cops play their game, apply the law selectively and many lie, cheat and steal, while they hide under the veil of immunity. Our nation is corrupt from the top down.

    When our corruption becomes so bad that it threatens the fabric of society, then it may change. California politicians are considering the legalization of marijuana because they can no longer afford to support all their corrupt institutions.

    I wonder how bad it's going to get in the United States before people change the way we are governed. All these political solutions that include creating and funding wars all over the world, imprisoning citizens for victimless crime and creating a justice system which deny the jury their right to judge the law as well as the guilt of the accused, serve those who seek to profit without regard for serving justice and obeying our constitution.

    They say it is darkest right before dawn. I wonder how dark it will get before Americans do something to fix their broken political system.
    you should run for congress with a speach like that!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peachfuzz View Post
    I think these cop bashing threads are a joke and should be locked
    this is a fact. just because you had one bad experince with a cop, does that mean they are all dicks and they are all out to get you. some of them pride them selfs in trying to do there part and do there jobs. just because they uphold the law doesnt mean they agree with every one in the book but they do there jobs.

    i tip my hats to them.

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    What type of fine are you looking at for this offence?

    Seeing that there is an officer on board, When customs takes your gear, do you know what the next steps would be? just asking

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-Z View Post
    Damn that is garbage... But then again.... NJ is also a higher paid place since it is higher cost of living. I pay 3000 a year to insure my camaro.
    c-z - i never knew you were in jersey too..... what part? shoot me a PM. I have good insurance pay less than 3000 for 2 cars LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    dont take it personal - if you are a cop, becarful cuz if you not and you say you are on a forum like this it could lead to other issues...

    back to what i was saying... being a cop and useing drugs/steroids make you a slight hypocrite... im not flaming you, as a matter of a fact i would much rather have a cop on the juice in shape that could protect me than a 300 lbs fat cop that can bearly get out of his /her car to chase some criminal.

    agreed...

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