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[BigSwol]

Ronnie what's ur thoughts on sust, eq,var?
I was thinking
Weeks 1-8 sust 600 mg, eq 500mg, var 50mg Ed
Weeks 9&10 sust 300mg
Weeks 11-18 sust 750, eq 650, mast 300 ew
Weeks 19-20 sust 450
Then pct...prob nolva and hcg

Thanks and interesting stuff!

[kelevra]

Back workout?
Do you ever recommend separating width and thickness to dif days?
If so, 3 best movements for each??

[Crazy Chris]

Back workout?
Do you ever recommend separating width and thickness to dif days?
If so, 3 best movements for each??

I'm sure Ronnie will have some great input on this one. But I thought I'd share my own back routine with you

I work out twice each day. On back day I do width in the morning and thickness in the evening.

Width:
1. Lat pull down, 6 sets
2. Narrow pull down w palms facing eo, 6 sets

Thickness:
1. Seated row medium/narrow grip, 6 sets
2. Diagonal row/pull w rope, 6 sets

So that's a total of 24 sets for back each week.
I could never do 24 sets in one session, but with this routine I have time to recover between the two sessions and I can do more volume.
I really like the idea of focus on two excercises each session and increase the amount of work sets to a maximum of 6. This has worked incredibly well for me. And I personally think separating width and thickness to different days is great.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I'm sure Ronnie will have some great input on this one. But I thought I'd share my own back routine with you

I work out twice each day. On back day I do width in the morning and thickness in the evening.

Width:
1. Lat pull down, 6 sets
2. Narrow pull down w palms facing eo, 6 sets

Thickness:
1. Seated row medium/narrow grip, 6 sets
2. Diagonal row/pull w rope, 6 sets

So that's a total of 24 sets for back each week.
I could never do 24 sets in one session, but with this routine I have time to recover between the two sessions and I can do more volume.
I really like the idea of focus on two excercises each session and increase the amount of work sets to a maximum of 6. This has worked incredibly well for me. And I personally think separating width and thickness to different days is great.

Yes this works great. Separating quads and hams also works equally as well for some!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Back workout?
Do you ever recommend separating width and thickness to dif days?
If so, 3 best movements for each??

Width:
dual cable pulldowns palms facing forward
Pullups with medium grip
Pullover machine like Dorian Yates used

Thickness:
Rows on life fitness macine using side grip and seat set deep so angle of pull is at upper abs to lower chest area
Seated cable rows- close grip
One arm dumbell rows

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie what's ur thoughts on sust, eq,var?
I was thinking
Weeks 1-8 sust 600 mg, eq 500mg, var 50mg Ed
Weeks 9&10 sust 300mg
Weeks 11-18 sust 750, eq 650, mast 300 ew
Weeks 19-20 sust 450
Then pct...prob nolva and hcg

Thanks and interesting stuff!

looks good but I would run masteron both reloads and use var during second reload because of its unmatched ability to enhance ATP/CP systems. You may want to run var for both reloads!