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10-05-2009, 03:14 PM #1Member
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Deca or Tren: which one shut u down the most?
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10-05-2009, 03:16 PM #2
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10-05-2009, 03:18 PM #3Member
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just 2 cycles, what pct help u after doing a tren cycle??
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10-05-2009, 03:28 PM #4
Tren shuts you down hard,but its kinda worth it. Everything will shut you down eventually so why dont get the best results out of it. A moderate test cycle shuts me down just as much,and recovery were about the same.
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10-05-2009, 03:30 PM #5Member
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Thanks...what pct helps the most with a tren cycle?
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10-05-2009, 03:31 PM #6
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10-05-2009, 03:34 PM #7
Both shut you down, tren does have more sides IMHO but both are 19nors which shut you down hard.
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10-05-2009, 03:40 PM #8
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10-05-2009, 03:47 PM #9
you can only be completely shut down, you can't go beyond that, and both would shut you down completely early in the cycle. it would not be accurate to say you would be more shut down at the end of cycle with either, either way your just completely shut down.
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10-05-2009, 04:07 PM #10
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10-05-2009, 04:09 PM #11Member
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that's why i exactly asked the question in the first place: alot of mixed message.
I'm 29 by the way and will be 30 in few months :-)
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10-05-2009, 04:15 PM #12
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10-05-2009, 04:56 PM #13Member
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10-05-2009, 04:58 PM #14
I'm saying both tren and deca will completely suppress your natural testosterone production, which is what the phrase "shut down" refers to.
To "battle testicular atrophy" I would use HCG on cycle.
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10-05-2009, 05:00 PM #15
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10-05-2009, 08:35 PM #17
tren shut me down hard. I couldn't even get my dic.k up at times and test was the only thing that saved me. Im on PCT now and barely getting back to normal.
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10-05-2009, 08:43 PM #18
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10-05-2009, 09:16 PM #19
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10-05-2009, 09:47 PM #21
It's all the same. Run test with it of coarse and maybe some hcg if you're worried about it.
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10-05-2009, 09:48 PM #22
Totally agree about the deca part, never used tren yet. Im taking 500mg test enth/cyp week and 450mg deca week. I was taking 100mg proviron ed and my libido was great! Now ive stopped the proviron and my libido is whatever, i guess average or a **** hair below average. Nothing like when i did test only cycles, wow! My libido was 10x higher with test only cycles compared to now ith deca thats for sure! And its not cus of prolac or estro sides, those are all covered!
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10-05-2009, 10:41 PM #23Anabolic Member
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Here is how odd mine body is:
Cycle # 2:
Weeks 1-12: 700mg of Test C
Weeks 1-10: 600mg Deca
**COMPLETELY shut down towards the end of the cycle
Cycle # 3
Weeks 1-8: 75mg Tren A ED
Weeks 1-10: 250mg Test C
***DID NOT SHUT DOWN AT ALL- SEX DRIVE WAS GREAT
.....does not get much more bizarre than that.
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10-05-2009, 11:54 PM #25Anabolic Member
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10-06-2009, 12:02 AM #27Anabolic Member
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10-06-2009, 07:28 AM #28
Some great info here. Estrogen to can shut you down,I didnt think about that. So an ai might help? Thats good to know. I must find my sweet spot for test first.
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10-06-2009, 07:55 AM #29
It's not accurate to say that estrogen can shut you down, we are to some degree skewing terms associated with with these issues. The presence of the synthetic hormones we are injecting are recognized by the body as those hormones, and when more than enough is present the body sees no need to produce more and "shuts down" production of these hormones, in this case testosterone . The body strives to keep a natural balance of hormone levels, so in the presence of what appears to be elevated testosterone, more estrogen, etc can be expected. It's these fluctuations in hormone levels that lead to a variety of unwanted side effects.
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10-06-2009, 07:52 PM #30Member
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Did u use HCG before or after cycle and at what dosage and for how long or weeks?
Last edited by SG2009; 10-06-2009 at 07:57 PM.
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10-06-2009, 07:54 PM #31
I like HCG on cycle, I like 500iu/e5d, but there are many protocols that work.
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10-06-2009, 08:14 PM #32Member
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by on cycle, do u mean throughout the cycle ? and what the heck is iu? what unit of measurement is that? thanks
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10-06-2009, 08:24 PM #33
yes throughout the cycle, stopping before pct and iu is "International Unit", it's how HCG is measured (among other things)
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