EQ - year round

**MR10X** · 11-20-2009, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

I would like Marcus to answer this one, coz he has/is experiencing with this currently, what if he ran Nebido on the last shot of his cycle for bridging??

But Id say the OP can go with Test E at 250mg/week for bridging.

250mg is more or less replacement dose,i dont think it would do much for bridging.Using EQ at a low dose wont shut your test level down but you will have some Anabolic in your system. People can offer an opinion but its no good unless you have done what your suggesting.

***El Diablo*** · 11-20-2009, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by MR10X

[/b]250mg is more or less replacement[/b] dose,i dont think it would do much for bridging.Using EQ at a low dose wont shut your test level down but you will have some Anabolic in your system. People can offer an opinion but its no good unless you have done what your suggesting.

If u read the OP question "I am going to start using a TRT dose of test to bridge in between cycles..What are the drawbacks of using a low dose of EQ throughout the year ?

Reason why i said Test E at 250mg/week is because blood levels are still above baseline with this drug at around day 8. Equipoise will cause a suppression of your hormones, such as endogenous testosterone , so I would also recommend using injectable testosterone in any cycle containing it. Failure to do so could result in possible sexual dysfunction and other sides

**dec11** · 11-20-2009, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by MR10X

I have been using steroids for 30 years off and on,i know how they effect my body.I am giving my experience.My Eq is real,thats why i suggested a little stronger dose if yours is UG or generic.

well said, alot are critical of something they havnt experienced themselves

**Critical Mass** · 11-20-2009, 07:27 AM

I think test is a better choice to do year round and then you add in deca ,eq,tren etc when you hit it full gas.

**Hazard** · 11-20-2009, 03:00 PM

I would LOVE to see bloodwork and test levels while doing 50mg's EQ. I'm not saying EQ doesn't work for anyone..... what I'm saying is..... IT TAKES LONGER THAN ONE WEEK TO KICK IN! By the time the EQ would start working..... your PCT would be over.....

~Haz~

**Hazard** · 11-20-2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by thenextcutler

because people are obsessed with making everyone think EQ is useless regardless of what anyone else says or experiences, simply because EQ is not suitable for those obsessed

This is not the case..... and is quite an ignorant statement......

I HAVE used EQ...... I can rightfully give MY OPINIONS on it. If you posted a question on whether deca gave someone deca dick..... and 17 out of 20 guys said yes..... wouldn't you take the precaution of preparing for it?

What i'm saying is..... EQ for a lot of the people on this site didn't do SQUAT..... Does it mean it wont do anything for you? Absolutely not..... However you wont know unless you try it. If you think it works for you..... then fine - take it all you want but don't criticize other members and vets for saying it sucks. We don't tell you it doesn't work for you...... so don't say we're bent on making people hate it. I honestly could give a shit less if you spend money on it and it doesn't work......

~Haz~

**MR10X** · 11-20-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I would LOVE to see bloodwork and test levels while doing 50mg's EQ. I'm not saying EQ doesn't work for anyone..... what I'm saying is..... IT TAKES LONGER THAN ONE WEEK TO KICK IN! By the time the EQ would start working..... your PCT would be over.....

~Haz~

I have started a cycle before and only took EQ,i could feel the effects of it within 3 or 4 days. You been reading too much missinformation on the forums that people repeat with no personal knowlege. It doesnt take weeks for EQ to get in your system and become effective. Yes it does release over a long period of time but that doesnt mean it takes weeks. And yes i have taken 50mg by itself before.

**Hazard** · 11-20-2009, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

I have started a cycle before and only took EQ,i could feel the effects of it within 3 or 4 days. You been reading too much missinformation on the forums that people repeat with no personal knowlege. It doesnt take weeks for EQ to get in your system and become effective. Yes it does release over a long period of time but that doesnt mean it takes weeks. And yes i have taken 50mg by itself before.

You feel EQ in 3 or 4 days?

Thats a new one..... well I guess you are one lucky sob.....

LOL yeah I been reading too much missinformation...... aparantly the 600mg's/wk I ran for 12+ weeks doesn't count..... and no it wasn't bunk....

I guess anyone who says EQ is weak or anyone who doesn't like EQ has no personal experience with it...... Let me tell you something..... I give advice BASED ON EXPERIENCE! If I havn't used something - i'll tell you I havn't.

Another thing..... If you came to me and asked me if Tren E gave me gives me any sides i'd tell you that I get night sweats and acne..... Would you want me telling you that Tren E is harmless? Same goes for EQ! If someone asks about it..... i'm going to tell them it's a weak compound..... and it didn't do shit for me. However..... I will also tell them to try it if they really want to because that is the only way to know for ones self.

have a nice day sir.....

~Haz~

**MR10X** · 11-20-2009, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

You feel EQ in 3 or 4 days?

Thats a new one..... well I guess you are one lucky sob.....

LOL yeah I been reading too much missinformation...... aparantly the 600mg's/wk I ran for 12+ weeks doesn't count..... and no it wasn't bunk....

I guess anyone who says EQ is weak or anyone who doesn't like EQ has no personal experience with it...... Let me tell you something..... I give advice BASED ON EXPERIENCE! If I havn't used something - i'll tell you I havn't.

Another thing..... If you came to me and asked me if Tren E gave me gives me any sides i'd tell you that I get night sweats and acne..... Would you want me telling you that Tren E is harmless? Same goes for EQ! If someone asks about it..... i'm going to tell them it's a weak compound..... and it didn't do shit for me. However..... I will also tell them to try it if they really want to because that is the only way to know for ones self.

have a nice day sir.....

~Haz~

I guess i am lucky or have some good shit. i start getting better pumps the first week i take it,that alone means its in the muscle cells,i dont where all this bullshit that it takes weeks for it to take effect came from,but its just that. As for EQ being weak,i would be looking my training if you dont make good gains because i always make excellant gains,as good as decca or anything else i have used without all the bloat.

**Hazard** · 11-20-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

I guess i am lucky or have some good shit. i start getting better pumps the first week i take it,that alone means its in the muscle cells,i dont where all this bullshit that it takes weeks for it to take effect came from,but its just that. As for EQ being weak,i would be looking my training if you dont make good gains because i always make excellant gains,as good as decca or anything else i have used without all the bloat.

I assure you my training is not an issue..... i don't need to justify my qualifications to you...... but i have spent 8 years dialing in my diet and training. I can grow without steroids ..... as I have done..... I take myself even further with them. I know how I respond to 500mg's test compared with 750..... I know how I respond to dbol at 30mg's and 50mg's..... I can assure you without a doubt that EQ is weak and produces little gains for myself and it certainly, IN NO WAY, can compare to deca ...... as far as MY body goes.

I guess marcus, who has countless years of researching and training under his belt, must not be doing something right..... all because EQ doesn't have much of an effect on him either.

As I have said to you already..... it's great that it works for you and I have said it works for some people..... If you would open your mind to the fact that it IS a weak compound and may not have an effect for some people I wouldn't be saying this. To tell someone that something they are doing is wrong because a compound doesn't "work" for them is ignorant...... I suppose Ronnie Coleman would be doing something wrong if he said EQ didn't work for him either?

~Haz~

**urbanbody** · 11-20-2009, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

I have been using steroids for 30 years off and on,i know how they effect my body.I am giving my experience.My Eq is real,thats why i suggested a little stronger dose if yours is UG or generic.

Your 30 years could be questioned then. Equipoise is a vet drug that was made up by a UG. Come on dude. im over this post goodluck with your Eq I hope it does work for you.

**urbanbody** · 11-20-2009, 10:56 PM

Ok Im not done Eq so you feel it after one week??? You do realize it's ester right???? You really are clueless as to what steroids are! And you come talking about peoples training? I'll post pic for pic and put you to a shame if need Im def not the biggest but at 225 I bet im by far better than you!!!

**sweezy** · 11-21-2009, 06:27 AM

Can you email me the source for that 1 week EQ ? I would definately be interested in using some

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 07:20 AM

You young people are really stupid,you shouldnt ba allowed to post unless you have at least 2 cycles. Just because you can read doesnt make you an expert.I especially like the one about it takes 6 weeks for it to kick in...in 6 weeks it would have been in and out of your body so your saying the new stuff is working but the old stuff didnt....boy that makes a lot of sense.

***El Diablo*** · 11-21-2009, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by MR10X

You young people are really stupid,you shouldnt ba allowed to post unless you have at least 2 cycles. Just because you can read doesnt make you an expert.I especially like the one about it takes 6 weeks for it to kick in...in 6 weeks it would have been in and out of your body so your saying the new stuff is working but the old stuff didnt....boy that makes a lot of sense.

Who said it takes 6 weeks to kick in?

**dec11** · 11-21-2009, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by urbanbody

Ok Im not done Eq so you feel it after one week??? You do realize it's ester right???? You really are clueless as to what steroids are! And you come talking about peoples training? I'll post pic for pic and put you to a shame if need Im def not the biggest but at 225 I bet im by far better than you!!!

and you knw it all??? "ok im not done" ie, i needed to go and pull summit of the net, another band wagon member lol

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Who said it takes 6 weeks to kick in?

A lot of people say that,it sounds really stupid doesnt it.How can something kick in when it's not even in your system any more....
Heres a quote from another,this guy says 8 to 10 weeks......

"It takes 8 - 10 weeks for both EQ and Deca to kick in, so obviously you don't feel anything yet. Also, both EQ and Deca shut down your natural testosterone production, so you need to run Test with it. Deca shuts you down hard, and since you are not going to have any Test in your body, you are going to get some major sides."

**sweezy** · 11-21-2009, 10:02 AM

I don't start getting pumps from EQ until after 8 weeks..I also front load 1000 mg the first 2 weeks...What yall have to understand is everybody is different. My brother swears he can feel it after week 2...

***El Diablo*** · 11-21-2009, 10:09 AM

^^ My appetite starts increasing in week 3, i hav a little more stamina, but thats about it. The 6-8 week statement is rubbish.

**sweezy** · 11-21-2009, 10:11 AM

Who are you to say how other people's body responds ? I guess everybodys going by your standards now..

***El Diablo*** · 11-21-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by sweezy

Who are you to say how other people's body responds ? I guess everybodys going by your standards now..

Ur diet must hav sucked only for it to be felt in week 8 and thats AFTER frontloading 1000mg....
What else did u run with it, dont take it so personal, did u drink ur Clomid or what?

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 11:14 AM

When i do a Test E,EQ cycle i can see a difference in my muscle size in 3 weeks,this is more than likely old muscle that is regained but the stuff is obviously working by week 2 to see a difference in week 3. I typically dont use high doses of test because of the side effects,i would rather up the EQ and use 200 to 300mg a week of test E. I just did a TEST Suspension and Tren A cycle had some side effects i didnt like.i totally lost my appetite.lost a lot of cardio ability.I did the cycle for 8 weeks then added EQ and dropped the tren, my appetite came back and so did the cardio.

***El Diablo*** · 11-21-2009, 11:25 AM

Tren made u lose ur appetite? Thats not normal, but yeah, no one responds the same to that compound, i on the other hand love it, Ill be running it very soon..

cant wait,
But i still think u can see the difference in muscle size due to the Test E, but hey, If ur happy running Eq alongside it then go for it.

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Tren made u lose ur appetite? Thats not normal, but yeah, no one responds the same to that compound, i on the other hand love it, Ill be running it very soon..

cant wait,
But i still think u can see the difference in muscle size due to the Test E, but hey, If ur happy running Eq alongside it then go for it.

Yes it did,the tren i did was the conversion so i know its good.I might have been using too much,i was using 1ml ED which is close to 100mg.I just did not feel good at all on the Tren,i will try it again but at a lower dose.

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Tren made u lose ur appetite? Thats not normal, but yeah, no one responds the same to that compound, i on the other hand love it, Ill be running it very soon..

cant wait,
But i still think u can see the difference in muscle size due to the Test E, but hey, If ur happy running Eq alongside it then go for it.

I have done EQ only the first week to see if it was legit (QV) and it was effective.

**dec11** · 11-21-2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by urbanbody

Your 30 years could be questioned then. Equipoise is a vet drug that was made up by a UG. Come on dude. im over this post goodluck with your Eq I hope it does work for you.

wtf?why would something thats designed to beef up horses and used in the vet trade be made by an UGL????!!! of course theres pharm grade

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by declan11

wtf?why would something thats designed to beef up horses and used in the vet trade be made by an UGL????!!! of course theres pharm grade

Its not,its made by companys that make veteranary drugs. It is used in million dollar race horses for rehabilitation and is one of the only drugs legal for that.

**dec11** · 11-21-2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

Its not,its made by companys that make veteranary drugs. It is used in million dollar race horses for rehabilitation and is one of the only drugs legal for that.

unless im reading you wrong that makes it pharm grade then

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 12:25 PM

Yes it quality grade stuff that is only sold to vets.Only bodybuilders are crazy enought to use something brewed in a bath tub. I have some of the legit stuff thats 50mg/ml and its some potent stuff in a 50ml bottle.

**dec11** · 11-21-2009, 12:32 PM

yeah, i cn get pharm aswell, the guy uses it himself and says 400mg pw wit test blows him up like crazy

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 12:36 PM

I have always got good results with it myself,if someone says they didnt get anything from it would have to doubt their stuff. I get insane pumps and very vascular on it.

**Kratos** · 11-21-2009, 12:50 PM

50mg isn't going to do anything and what are your stats that you feel you need to start cruising?

What ever you think you're getting from the eq, you aren't.

and out of all the people who get these amazing results with EQ, how many ran it alone with no test?

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

50mg isn't going to do anything and what are your stats that you feel you need to start cruising?

What ever you think you're getting from the eq, you aren't.

and out of all the people who get these amazing results with EQ, how many ran it alone with no test?

My stats are i have been doing steroids for 30 years so i dont need advice.

**Hazard** · 11-21-2009, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

I have always got good results with it myself,if someone says they didnt get anything from it would have to doubt their stuff. I get insane pumps and very vascular on it.

why? Just because someone doesn't like a compound or says it doesn't work for them doesn't mean they're stuff is bunk. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT...... your 30 years of experience should have told you that by now.

The Test and EQ cycle for me made me hungry...... and made me a bit more vascular. I know it worked for that...... as far as muscle goes..... It did nothing more than the Test only cycle's I have ran in the past. This is going to be the last time I say this...... THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE with the compound..... not yours..... and just because I didn't love your "holy grail" of steroids doesn't mean it was bunk.

~Haz~

**Kratos** · 11-21-2009, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

My stats are i have been doing steroids for 30 years so i dont need advice.

impressive, sry I questioned you

**Hazard** · 11-21-2009, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

My stats are i have been doing steroids for 30 years so i dont need advice.

Out of curiosity..... what are your stats? I'm just curious..... not trying to hate.....

~Haz~

**dec11** · 11-21-2009, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kratos

50mg isn't going to do anything and what are your stats that you feel you need to start cruising?

What ever you think you're getting from the eq, you aren't.

and out of all the people who get these amazing results with EQ, how many ran it alone with no test?

how can you tell, if your not one of the ppl that claim it works for them and why would anyone sell or use the stuff?

***El Diablo*** · 11-21-2009, 12:57 PM

Kratos.... lmfao!

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

why? Just because someone doesn't like a compound or says it doesn't work for them doesn't mean they're stuff is bunk. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT...... your 30 years of experience should have told you that by now.

The Test and EQ cycle for me made me hungry...... and made me a bit more vascular. I know it worked for that...... as far as muscle goes..... It did nothing more than the Test only cycle's I have ran in the past. This is going to be the last time I say this...... THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE with the compound..... not yours..... and just because I didn't love your "holy grail" of steroids doesn't mean it was bunk.

~Haz~

Im happy for you........so the Eq worked as good as a test only cycle,then why would you use all that test and suffer the side effects when you can use a little test and EQ?

**MR10X** · 11-21-2009, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Out of curiosity..... what are your stats? I'm just curious..... not trying to hate.....

~Haz~

Im 63 5' 11" 220lbs 8% Bf, I use to compete when i was in my 30's,but only train to stay in shape now. I have done probably over 30 cycles since i was 35,and i am not on HRT. I have done test only cycles and EQ only cycles so i know how i respond to that. I cant do high test dose because i get too serious side effects so i am limited to 400mg a week of test at the most.