2nd Cycle, Coming to you for advice this time!!

**Tim83** · 01-27-2010, 10:48 AM

26
190
6'0
10.34% bf

My first cycle was straight sustanon 1 year ago 500mg a week for 12 weeks.
Followed by a shit pct (didnt know any better)

I am trying to get drafted and need to put on some mass. I don t need to worry about being tested for about 8 months.

My diet is quite good.

I was thinking

Cycle:
1-12 test prop 125ml eod
1-4 dbol 40 mg ed

PCT:
HCG 10-16
adex 13-16 .5mg eod

I have all the req. "stuff" with me now to begin this cycle feb 1st.

I have been reading alot on forums for the past 6 months and decided to sign up here. I like the layout of the forum and the info offered to all newbies.

***D7M*** · 01-27-2010, 10:57 AM

You're trying to get drafted for what?

I think 10weeks is long enough run with prop, and you don't need the dbol in the beginning, unless you really want it. I hope you meant 125mg/EOD, not 125ML.

I've had good success with this pct:
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20

**Tim83** · 01-27-2010, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

You're trying to get drafted for what?

I think 10weeks is long enough run with prop, and you don't need the dbol in the beginning, unless you really want it. I hope you meant 125mg/EOD, not 125ML.

I've had good success with this pct:
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20

Baseball,
Im getting up there in age now.
I am going to make one last crack at it and then If i make it, Great if not I'll just marry my gf and start a family.

i did mean mg, I dont have the funds to do 125ml, or a big enough needle.

A teammate of mine told me to stay away from nolva and clomid.

***D7M*** · 01-27-2010, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Tim83

Baseball,
Im getting up there in age now.
I am going to make one last crack at it and then If i make it, Great if not I'll just marry my gf and start a family.

i did mean mg, I dont have the funds to do 125ml, or a big enough needle.

A teammate of mine told me to stay away from nolva and clomid.

What's your team-mate's reasoning for that?

True, some users experience some emotional effects from clomid, but smaller doese (50mg/ED) will still help tremendously in restoring your natural test production, and with often less side effects. I don't think your team mate knows what he's talking about.

**Mooseman33** · 01-27-2010, 12:02 PM

clomid does screw with vision.
and trying to hit a baseball with vision issues would be tough..

but not everyone has that as a side...

**Tim83** · 01-27-2010, 12:21 PM

hmmmm. Interesting, I will ask him for his reasoning.

According to him with hcg his balls came back almost immediatly and stayed there when he was finished everything.

***D7M*** · 01-27-2010, 12:25 PM

Sure, if you're concerned about testicular atrophy (as well as its many other benefits), use HCG during your cycle.

But I'll take a SERM (nolva, clomid, toremefine) any day for pct over HCG.

**Tim83** · 01-27-2010, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

Sure, if you're concerned about testicular atrophy (as well as its many other benefits), use HCG during your cycle.

But I'll take a SERM (nolva, clomid, toremefine) any day for pct over HCG.

I have been checking more in depth into HCG
It will bring my nuts back, but it will not boost testosterone back to norm?
So my balls will get bigger and then shrink again?

***D7M*** · 01-27-2010, 01:06 PM

Here you go: HCG - How important is it?

^Read that, it will save me alot of typing

**Tim83** · 01-27-2010, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by D7M

Here you go: HCG - How important is it?

^Read that, it will save me alot of typing

Ok I have been reading through HCG for the past 2 hrs.
I see Swiftos thread, I understand swiftos thread. However there are other studies that dont have the same end result as his. or the doctor that wrote the journal.

Is there anyone who has exp. with HCG on their pct?

**Tim83** · 01-27-2010, 03:19 PM

and D7M thank you for everything as well im not disregarding you in any way. I just want to know if anyone else has successfully used HCG only or +1 compound and been successful. (or is it just a nice dream that it would be this ez)

**Hard.On** · 01-27-2010, 09:08 PM

I Have been trying to find this out for some time now. I dont know if its a touchy subject or other then swiftos threads there really isnt that much concrete info????

**BJJ** · 01-28-2010, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Tim83

and D7M thank you for everything as well im not disregarding you in any way. I just want to know if anyone else has successfully used HCG only or +1 compound and been successful. (or is it just a nice dream that it would be this ez)

D7M gave you the right advice.
If you are still unsure about that, just try it for yourself and see the result.

***D7M*** · 01-28-2010, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

D7M gave you the right advice.
If you are still unsure about that, just try it for yourself and see the result.

^Exactly.

Just be sure to get blood work before and after so you know where you're at.

**Tim83** · 01-28-2010, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

^Exactly.

Just be sure to get blood work before and after so you know where you're at.

Thats a good Idea
I am going to the docs this weekend.
I will get my bloodwork done now

I have been researching and I think I am just going to order the liquid clomid and tamox from AR-R .

I dont want to be the test rat for this experiment.

So I am going to run 125iu e3d weeks 4-10 ?
and begin pct 3 days after my last prop shot?
100/50/50/50
40/20/20/20