First cycle advice appreciated

**Sinned** · 02-07-2010, 03:00 PM

Ok... been reading for a few weeks now and I think I have some resemblance of a plan..

Some stats;
age: 33
height: 5ft 10
Weight: 177lbs
Body Fat: 19%
Exercise: Lifting since high school, last 4yrs aggressively. 4 days a week, I'm lifting in the am and doing cardio at night.
Diet is pretty good, at a 2 to 1 protein to carb ratio.
Goals: 5-10lbs of solid gains
Concerns: side effects (hair loss, gyno, shrunken nuts, loss of libido, etc)

I've taken all sorts of OTC supplements and proteins, but this would be my first attempt at a cycle.

I may be going a little overboard on the Letro.. if so, please let me know. Also, I'll be using Nizoral shampoo, saw palmetto, multi-vitamin, and taurine (for the clen ).

Appreciate any suggestions on the pic below.

**c-Z** · 02-07-2010, 03:04 PM

Letro.. Use for last resort... Shit is strong.

HCG in PCT. I wouldn't

Cyp and EQ. Why are doses jumped up then down?

Too much crap in this for a first cycle..... Im sorry... I don't agree. No need to even go further....

Test beginner cycle info
Read it.

Here I will do it for you.

1-12 test cyp 500mgs
Adex .25 mg ed
EQ NONE.
PCT Nolva 40/20/20/20 Clomid 100/50/50/50

Done.

**BJJ** · 02-07-2010, 03:11 PM

First cycle?
Why so many compounds!
Letro?... are you sure

**Sinned** · 02-07-2010, 04:14 PM

thanks guys. kinda felt like I was going overboard, now i know.

Letro just seemed like a better choice then the others, especially based on the info I read.. kinda freaked me out on the libedo kill, but thought a low dose would be fine

**c-Z** · 02-07-2010, 04:53 PM

Letro will wipe your estrogen out. COMPLETELY to next to nothing. You need some estrogen.

**Phate** · 02-07-2010, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

Letro will wipe your estrogen out. COMPLETELY to next to nothing. You need some estrogen.

agreed, even a low dose of letro has been shown to drop estrogen levels by 98%

**marcus300** · 02-07-2010, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

agreed, even a low dose of letro has been shown to drop estrogen levels by 98%

I agree, forget letro while on cycle it wipes to much estrogen out of your body. What is your cycle plan?

**Sinned** · 02-09-2010, 01:55 PM

thanks. Per advice, I pulled letro and replaced with .25 of Arimidex (daily) while I'm on the test cyp. I also started the test at 500 and then tapered down at end of cycle (to ween off).

I removed EQ Clen , Benadryl, and dropped HCG from the PCT.

Ok if I run dianabol (40mgs daily) for the first 4 weeks?

**Mooseman33** · 02-09-2010, 02:12 PM

letro will make u feel like ur dying....

dont ween off the test, run it same level all cycle.

others will say fine about the dbol but i think ur first cycle should be just test..

**Sinned** · 02-09-2010, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

letro will make u feel like ur dying....

dont ween off the test, run it same level all cycle.

others will say fine about the dbol but i think ur first cycle should be just test..

thanks, the letro is freaking me out the more I hear personal responses on it.

I'll drop the dbol .. better safe than sorry for the first time.

**jjredd** · 02-09-2010, 02:18 PM

yeah if this is your first cycle its best to do the beginner cycle posted on the top threads. Good luck

**yungone501** · 02-09-2010, 02:26 PM

At 19% BF, you obviously have a flaw in your diet which is probably why your turning to doing a cycle. I would re-check your diet, make some adjustments, lost some BF and THEN consider doing a beginners cycle...Not this one.