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    Of coarse you gain muscle with those.....they're steroids . Excessive water gain does not mean strength gains. Think about it.

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    Again witht he Dbol only Debate:
    The Dbol Only Debate.

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    I ran a low dose of D bol along with test E for my 1st cycle and it worked out great. The D bol is a great kickstart, even if you feel that the gains are mostly water, you can't deny the fact that it has a pronounced effect on your strength levels. Higher strength leads to heavier lifting and that leads to more gains....and THEN the test kicks in

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