help w Gyno

[gymforlife21]

Im on my 3rd cycle.... 5 weeks into it... for the past 2 weeks i started to take nolva because my nipples started to get very sensitive... they are still like that despite the nolva... I was taking 1 20mg nolva a day.. a few days ago i went to 2...

Any suggestions......I got some minor growth that only i can notice..maybe because i feel it.....


INFO:
Im 26, weight 240lbs and 6'4"

3rd cycle
.5cc T-prop EOD
.25cc Primo EOD
.25cc Tren Mix 150 EOD

2 days ago I upped the T-prop to 1cc EOD

[magic32]

Im on my 3rd cycle.... 5 weeks into it... for the past 2 weeks i started to take nolva because my nipples started to get very sensitive... they are still like that despite the nolva... I was taking 1 20mg nolva a day.. a few days ago i went to 2... WENT TO WHAT?

Any suggestions......I got some minor growth that only i can notice..maybe because i feel it.....


INFO:
Im 26, weight 240lbs and 6'4"

3rd cycle
.5cc T-prop EOD
.25cc Primo EOD
.25cc Tren Mix 150 EOD

2 days ago I upped the T-prop to 1cc EOD

Traditional doses of both Nolva OR Letro will correct this. However, the latter is best while on cycle and the former between them. Nevertheless, if that's all you have (or until you can get Letro) then Nolva while on is fine.

Whichever route you choose, continue until a couple weeks after PCT (should this come first), or a couple of weeks after the gyno has resolved, assuming this occurs after PCT. Many people simply don't run this regimen long enough.

FOR CLARITY: Whenever you experience symptoms and begin a Tx regimen, continue until at least two weeks after PCT. If the problem continues beyond two weeks after PCT then continue Tx until resolved...then go another two weeks. DON'T JUST STOP WHEN SYMPTOMS CEASE!!!

[gymforlife21]

Magic i went to '2' 20mg of nolva a day... is that way too much? I know we need estrogen to build muscle but also want to be careful with gyno....

[xxbiggdaddyxx]

Magic i went to '2' 20mg of nolva a day... is that way too much? I know we need estrogen to build muscle but also want to be careful with gyno....

Well there is no studies that says that 4O mg is better than 2o mg ed so twenty is fine your body can only block so much at a time and nolva is a serm and does not lower est . But if you take letro its strong stuff becareful i think you should try L-dex instead but thats just what i read not from exp . So to each his own

[magic32]

Magic i went to '2' 20mg of nolva a day... is that way too much? I know we need estrogen to build muscle but also want to be careful with gyno....

20mgs is sufficient.
40mgs won't double, or even significantly enhance your therapy. SERMs don't work like that, all higher dosing does is decrease your time to full blood serum saturation, not increase your protection. In all of the gyno resolution studies I've examined duration, not dosage, was the key. All too often people give up on therapy and opt for a quick surgical fix.

For reference, here are a few of those studies and there respective findings:

Ting AC, Chow LW, Leung YF. Comparison of tamoxifen with danazol in the management of idiopathic gynecomastia . Am Surg 2000;66: 38-40.[ISI][Medline]

Parker LN, Gray DR, Lai MK, Levin ER. Treatment of gynecomastia with tamoxifen: a double-blind crossover study. Metabolism. 1986;35: 705-8.[CrossRef][ISI][Medline]

McDermott MT, Hofeldt FD, Kidd GS. Tamoxifen therapy for painful idiopathic gynecomastia. South Med J 1990;83: 1283-5.[ISI][Medline]

Alagaratnam TT. Idiopathic gynecomastia treated with tamoxifen: a preliminary report.Clin Ther 1987;9: 483-7.[ISI][Medline]

And here's a thead in which I cite some related truths:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=1#post3919943

[AlphaGenetics]

If your having tren gyno then tamox wont help. Do you have lumps? What were your prior cycles and what were the sides?