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    turboz is offline New Member
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    Need First Cycle advice

    Hi, i want to go oral, Gain weight with not too much water retention. Thinking doing D-bol and anavar .

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    26 Years Old
    around 15% Fat (guessing)
    7 years training
    eating well

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    You dont want water retention but want to do dbol ?

    Not eating well if your at 18% bf.

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    Forget the juice get your diet fixed.

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    Guessing my body fat... ill post a picture soon, yea eating well. What do you have in mind Why not d-bol?

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    Dbol causes bloat. exactly what you don't want. Oral only IMO is garbage...

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    I want to gain weight without the big *Balloon effect* dont want the big water retention thing (like guys taking to much creatin and dont quite exercise)

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    I would try to focus more on your diet and trim up a little... Im not good with bf% guestemating but i would think your over 15%. And as stated i wouldnt do a oral only cycle.

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    So what would you do for my first cycle, in injection. (And i know about the diet)

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    How many days and what kind of work out do u do?,,,Just intraduce a bit more cardio till you love it. After you cut a bit, post your diet w macros. Even if you think you diet is well. Its prob not. Diet is key, you will grow like you eat pretty much. You need to be able to hold on to your leaner size for a bit. U could grow off a tweaked diet. The usual is test e only.

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    Not trying to be a dick... But you dont know about diet. I see plenty of natural guys who are cut to hell and big. You my friend are not. So diet is obviously lacking somewhere.....

    I won't ever do any oral only cycle. I love test. And test is definitely the best starting cycle around IMO.

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    Wich test should i begin with when all be more cut

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    I agree with C-Z, dude, diet first and eat right and work hard. You really need to research what these compounds you want to put in your body are, it's obvious you have no clue. So, you trust a stranger with your health?

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