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    Is it just me, or are customs getting better/tougher?

    I always hear of these sources who say 95%+ of their packages make it through.

    They've gotten me, 2 for 5. About 60% getting through and one that got through, only part of it did, so really I'd say 50%.

    That's in just over a year.

    Was wondering what everyone eases turns out have been like?

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    Oh, also,

    I ordered a "axis six" playstation 3 controller and it was shipped out of Japan.

    When i got it, customs when through that package too, I think they open up about anything these days.

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    Its all about your sources method of disguising their packages. If they keep using the same methods over and over again, customs will generally wise up and start snagging packages.

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    Most things in this world is improving, also customs...

    I ordered an acne soap thing from a company called .......... labs. They also opened it, so like RoadTo says it's all about disguising.

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    is it true that they flag your address?

    if so, that would explain why anything you order is searched

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    For a Ps3 pad? That's mental?
    My Eph got through yesterday, first time ordering from Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonT View Post
    is it true that they flag your address?

    if so, that would explain why anything you order is searched
    It could possibly be so. I cant confirm or deny this but Im sure alot of people would like to know this as well.

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    Am pretty sure they will flag your address if they find something illegal.

    If they dont it would be wierd, if they find your address in a random search is another story, its not like they read up on every package among thousands every day...

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    Boys, red-flagging is complete and utter B.S.

    It's all hype by customs to induce scare tactics..

    They do NOT red-flag addresses unless you're trying to order like 1000g of raw-powder to your house.

    That said, if you make an order like that don't be surprised to find some authorities are your front door as well.

    Wait a month or so for Customs to calm back down from the "Olympic Hype" and then get your source to re-send.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Boys, red-flagging is complete and utter B.S.

    It's all hype by customs to induce scare tactics..

    They do NOT red-flag addresses unless you're trying to order like 1000g of raw-powder to your house.

    That said, if you make an order like that don't be surprised to find some authorities are your front door as well.

    Wait a month or so for Customs to calm back down from the "Olympic Hype" and then get your source to re-send.

    -VM

    Working at costums? or just one of those "with a really really good friend" working there?

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    Imagine having access to the room where customs stores everything they confiscate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Boys, red-flagging is complete and utter B.S.

    It's all hype by customs to induce scare tactics..

    They do NOT red-flag addresses unless you're trying to order like 1000g of raw-powder to your house.

    That said, if you make an order like that don't be surprised to find some authorities are your front door as well.

    Wait a month or so for Customs to calm back down from the "Olympic Hype" and then get your source to re-send.

    -VM
    Not trying to pick a fight, but your first sentence is that it is complete B.S.
    and then your 3rd sentence is they do not red flag unless you are trying to order like 1kg of raw powder.

    So do they or dont they?

    What is your source?

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    im concerned myself. i recently have somebody sending me a free sample of 10ml test400 and it has been in new york since march 24. it doesn't even say inbound to customs yet and im concerned it got seized. if it does, that blows because im about to order some hcg , clomid, tamoxifen , and few more amps of sustanon .

    if i get red flagged (if they do that, i hope your right) over a free sample, i'll be a little disappointed. i'll keep you informed, because if i don't see any update on my tracking, i will assume it got hi jacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToRecovery View Post
    Not trying to pick a fight, but your first sentence is that it is complete B.S.
    and then your 3rd sentence is they do not red flag unless you are trying to order like 1kg of raw powder.

    So do they or dont they?

    What is your source?
    hmmm yeah.

    So if you order a moderate amount of gear and they get you they dont flag so they can get your big order later if they pick it up??

    You need to get caught with 1kg powder then they flag to get your next order in 5 years when you get out of jail??

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    think about it. Yes if they seize something they keep a record of it. But flagging your address. They would have to check every package that comes through customs against a database of flagged addresses. Do you realise how long that would take. Shit would be in customs for a month. Just like the ports a very small percentage of packages get checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    think about it. Yes if they seize something they keep a record of it. But flagging your address. They would have to check every package that comes through customs against a database of flagged addresses. Do you realise how long that would take. Shit would be in customs for a month. Just like the ports a very small percentage of packages get checked.
    Makes sense being that packages take up to a month or two to get to its destination. Its not as time consuming if you think about it. They pick up a suspicious package, type in the address, and a notification comes up that your address has been flagged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToRecovery View Post
    Makes sense being that packages take up to a month or two to get to its destination. Its not as time consuming if you think about it. They pick up a suspicious package, type in the address, and a notification comes up that your address has been flagged.
    If a package is suspicious they are opening it either way.

    well that is different then what most people are assuming flagged means.

    They think if your address is flagged some how every package going to your address is opened cause they check every package in customs against a list of flagged addresses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    If a package is suspicious they are opening it either way.

    well that is different then what most people are assuming flagged means.

    They think if your address is flagged some how every package going to your address is opened cause they check every package in customs against a list of flagged addresses.
    How do you know it's a manual process? (i.e. why does it have to be one guy sitting there and typing in every address?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    If a package is suspicious they are opening it either way.

    well that is different then what most people are assuming flagged means.

    They think if your address is flagged some how every package going to your address is opened cause they check every package in customs against a list of flagged addresses.
    Am not saying they check every package IF they have something "flagged".

    Am just saying IF they pick up a package and find something illegal they will have that name or address flagged if they have found something illegal before going to that address/name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonT View Post
    How do you know it's a manual process? (i.e. why does it have to be one guy sitting there and typing in every address?)
    I have a friend that works a JFK customs. A large percentage of the packages aren't even looked at.

    Much less checked electronically or manually against a list of flagged addies.

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    Getting back to customs. does anyone know what will show on the computer when you track your package if it gets seized. like i said, i had a registered mail package (10ml test) arrive in new york on march 24. it is now the 29th. it only says it has arrived and it does not state inbound to customs (like it usually does).

    im worried. good topic here guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I have a friend that works a JFK customs. A large percentage of the packages aren't even looked at.

    Much less checked electronically or manually against a list of flagged addies.
    Does he have access to the confiscated materials?

    If so, i'd imagine him to be a swole ass mofo

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    jason, what percentage of body fat is that? thats my goal.

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    They must run a pretty efficient program though.

    It's not like they are just snagging any pills or vials. my stuff is never labeled.

    They test the item, get results back and give a description some times.

    Other times they just call it a schedule II narcotic, toss a letter into the box and make me sign for the package.

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    As far as "flagging"

    They would have to manually enter addresses into a data base to cross reference these addresses.

    There is no UPC label like on your UPS or Fed Ex packages, and we should be thankful for that!

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    A my wife's uncle works for customs. They do not flag addresses. Too intensive and not cost effective.

    I think Vitruvian-Man was saying that you do not get flagged for small amounts. However, if it is huge you get flagged per se but in a very personal manner (think DEA knocking down your door).

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    i got the package just NOW. how can i determine if it is legit?
    i got it for free so it must be legit.

    im just so fn stoked because it didn't get taken by customs. it still says its in NY
    Last edited by dock holliday; 03-29-2010 at 02:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dock holliday View Post
    jason, what percentage of body fat is that? thats my goal.
    10-11 maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Boys, red-flagging is complete and utter B.S.

    It's all hype by customs to induce scare tactics..

    They do NOT red-flag addresses unless you're trying to order like 1000g of raw-powder to your house.

    That said, if you make an order like that don't be surprised to find some authorities are your front door as well.

    Wait a month or so for Customs to calm back down from the "Olympic Hype" and then get your source to re-send.

    -VM

    VM is right, they would have to manually input either the name and/or address of each package.

    What they basically do is ramdom searches or they target certain country's and focus on packages from that country. They will use drug dogs (not for gear), X-ray, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    VM is right, they would have to manually input either the name and/or address of each package.

    What they basically do is ramdom searches or they target certain country's and focus on packages from that country. They will use drug dogs (not for gear), X-ray, etc...
    Do you know what countries they would target or would that be an evolving list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonT View Post
    Do you know what countries they would target or would that be an evolving list?
    That can vary with them, but they can only search a small % of packages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadToRecovery View Post
    Not trying to pick a fight, but your first sentence is that it is complete B.S.
    and then your 3rd sentence is they do not red flag unless you are trying to order like 1kg of raw powder.

    So do they or dont they?

    What is your source?
    Bro, I thought I made it crystal clear. I don't know how you could have misinterpreted what I just wrote. In any case, to reiterate, they do NOT red-flag addresses within Canada unless; you get caught by customs trying to import LARGE amounts of a drug. (IE) NOT FOR PERSONAL USE BUT CLEARLY AN AMOUNT NECESSARY FOR DISTRIBUTION PURPOSES.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdinand View Post
    Working at costums? or just one of those "with a really really good friend" working there?
    Use your brain man.

    And in any case, it's really none of your business.

    Maybe you should check into just how much of our tax-payers $$ are put into our customs services, and then perhaps you'd realize that there is no possible f*cking way that they are actively spending large portions of that funding on "red-flagging" addresses.

    Especially when 90% or more of those addresses are ordering pennies worth of AAS, or other drugs from 2nd/3rd world countries... Bros, $500 worth of anabolic steroids every couple of months doesn't mean sh*t to the Canadian gov't or customs.

    When they start confiscating 20 - 30kg bags of powder thats when they start to track addresses, and add them to a system.

    Quote Originally Posted by durak View Post
    A my wife's uncle works for customs. They do not flag addresses. Too intensive and not cost effective.

    I think Vitruvian-Man was saying that you do not get flagged for small amounts. However, if it is huge you get flagged per se but in a very personal manner (think DEA knocking down your door).
    I'm glad there are some people on this board with common sense.

    And regarding your second paragraph. Yes, that is exactly what I meant.

    -VM

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    Ive had Zero problems including shipments from China. I got one package from China and the box had silhouettes of different sports figures on the box and the contents were labeled "Vitamin D6". Still no issues.

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    santa's elves work for customs in thier off season

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    Ive had Zero problems including shipments from China. I got one package from China and the box had silhouettes of different sports figures on the box and the contents were labeled "Vitamin D6". Still no issues.
    Well played, mine had Chinese writing on it and was empty

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    customs on the west coast in the usa are way tougher to get through than the east coast......

    I havn't had an issue yet.... *Knock on wood*

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    I have no idea if Customs has this software or not but the USPS has letter reading software that automatically reads addresses and directs mail in the processing center before it comes to a local post office. So if they have this it would be very simple to set the software up to flag specific addresses. I doubt they have it since they take so long to process things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian-Man View Post
    Use your brain man.

    And in any case, it's really none of your business.

    Maybe you should check into just how much of our tax-payers $$ are put into our customs services, and then perhaps you'd realize that there is no possible f*cking way that they are actively spending large portions of that funding on "red-flagging" addresses.

    Especially when 90% or more of those addresses are ordering pennies worth of AAS, or other drugs from 2nd/3rd world countries... Bros, $500 worth of anabolic steroids every couple of months doesn't mean sh*t to the Canadian gov't or customs.

    When they start confiscating 20 - 30kg bags of powder thats when they start to track addresses, and add them to a system.
    Hahaha, wow.... whats the reason u skipped my other post??

    You have no ****ing idea whats going on at the costums like the rest including me so.......... enough said....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    customs on the west coast in the usa are way tougher to get through than the east coast......

    I havn't had an issue yet.... *Knock on wood*

    ~Haz~
    I'm in MI so i'm not sure where mine comes in from.

    But Me and some friends have both had even ******* satchels nabbed, just small orders too.

    Looking at packages I have gotten of them, boy, it would be hard to assume they were not anything other than some lotion or therapy oils.

    Again, I've also had a PS3 controller open and inspected too.

    I'm operating on about 50% of my orders and generally re-ships are VERY slow, so I end up just ordering some other place.

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    on a side note,i read in the paper a few days ago, a man from my province had his stuff seized at customs......a kilo of yayo from costa rica.

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