ADVICE APPERICATED first AAS cycle,thanks

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Hello all, I am also a newbie, thinkin of a first time cycle of AAS as well. any advice would be awsome thnks.

INFO: 23YRS been training since i was 16yrs old, 189 lbs 15% B.F. I eat well, around 240-300g or protien a day,HIIT cardio 3xs a week, lift 4-5 day a week, i topped out at around 205lbs but im cutting not (would explain why im 189lbs now) .I want to get leaner around single digit B.F. like 9 or 8%. what AAS would you recomend? Ive done some research, and I keep seeing that for first cycle test E OR CYP is reccomended.......

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

anyone? Im sure someone can help......

[El Corvino]

Ok... they typically want you to wait till your 24/25 to start so I do have a recommendation for you. First of all, how tall are you at 189/15%?

Secondly, what are your goals of the cycle? Get bigger or is your goal of the cycle to get leaner? (that being the 8%/9%) Because to be honest, diet and more cardio can get you there. If you have been training that long and have hit a plateau research T3 and clenbuteral... but I highly doubt you have at 15% body fat.

[El Corvino]

FYI, typical SAFE beginners cycle is test by itself

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Hello all, yes ima newbie, thinkin of a first time cycle of AAS as well. any advice would be awsome thnks.

INFO: 23YRS been training since i was 16yrs old, 189 lbs 15% B.F. I eat well, around 240-300g or protien a day,HIIT cardio 3xs a week, lift 4-5 day a week, i topped out at around 205lbs but im cutting not (would explain why im 189lbs now) .I want to get leaner around single digit B.F. like 9 or 8%. what AAS would you recomend? Ive done some research, and I keep seeing that for first cycle test E OR CYP is reccomended....... but i want to lower my b.f. i know diet and cardio is the first key to that but what cycle would be reccomeded?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

FIRST OFF: thanks for posting back, im 5'10 and 15% is proballly 12% but my goal is to get leaner but keep size or maybe even grow a lil, I researched the clen , T3 ill probally stay away from, Im on a ECA as well.

[El Corvino]

I'd still stick to cardio and clen . No need for AAS to drop a few bf%. You must have a small frame, because I am 12% off a 7 caliper and 220 lbs at 5'9/5'10. I want to be at 10% before I start my next cycle and I am running cardio 6 days a week, clean diet (3300 clean calories per day), and some clen. No need to juice to attain what you are looking for man.

[calgarian]

u answer ur own question....

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

what would you concider a small framed guy? yea clen is gonna happen for sure But i do want to get bigger, up to 230 lean, but i was affraid that the AAS would make gain B.F. alot easier. I mean im gonna go sooner or later.maybe it isnt the right time. so should i get leaner before I do a cycle? or could I do test and clen?

[El Corvino]

Yes, I would certainly lose as much BF as possible naturally, and then maybe do a nice Dbol and test stack to put on size. Put in 6 more months of more cardio, hard diet training, and some clen and you will be ready.

You won't be putting on body fat, just water weight. It comes and goes.

Small frame guy as in I think I am just slightly above average and I am 220 at 12% at the same height.

[El Corvino]

Check your private messages

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

yea sounds good, and yeah I suppose im a Medium boned guy, slimmer frame. 33' waist, 26" thighs 16.5"arms never mesured my chest, how much did you weigh when you first started AAS

[El Corvino]

check your message/email and let me know if you got it and can respond back to me. I'm about to jump of the forum but I'll wait for your reply.

- don't worry admins, I'm not giving him a source and I am not a source. I know the rules and I play nice.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

i dont know how to check it, it wont let me go to my profile

[Big]

threads merged...

[El Corvino]

hit me up on an email I don't ever use - Edited
I was about to sign off, i can chat with ya there

[Big]

hit me up on an email I don't ever use - Edited
I was about to sign off, i can chat with ya there

and why is it you can't answer his questions here?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

you get that?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

threads merged...

so what do you think about my question?

[Big]

so what do you think about my question?

I feel that your goals are obtainable naturally, and for those ready to cycle long ester test only is fine.

[stevey_6t9]

and why is it you can't answer his questions here?

becos they prefer there steroid transaction to be in private

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

yea but what about test and clen ??

[PT]

i dont know how to check it, it wont let me go to my profile

be careful bro because we get alot of scammers here that want your money. there really good and usually will have multiple accounts to use as references. do not ever use anyone you meet here without 1st running a source check with myself or another staff member

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

be careful bro because we get alot of scammers here that want your money. there really good and usually will have multiple accounts to use as references. do not ever use anyone you meet here without 1st running a source check with myself or another staff member

I dont understand. I dont plan on buying ANYTINHG from anyone here. thank you for your concern. By the way he never tried to get me to buy anything.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Hers a new question. Can i run test with clen and bulk and gain size at the same time?

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

Opps. sorry I ment cut and gain size..

[cobra305]

You can get big and lean out with proper dieting. I just completed a test e cycle and was able to drop a few bf% while packing on quite a few pounds of muscle. What I did with my clen was run it upon completion of my test through my pct and I am liking the results.

[AZGOLDSMEMBER86]

nice, sounds like a good idea thanks. r you able to sleep ok on clen ?