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05-02-2010, 10:10 PM #1New Member
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2 questions, why mix steroids....
Hey guys i have two questions regarding steroids ....
If the goal of taking steroids is to raise testosterone levels why do people mix steroids?
specifically when taking test cyp, test E, and test pro, which are are perfectly androgenic /anabolic (1:1 ratio) why would some1 need to mix in other steroids with them (winstrol and d-bols for example)
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2nd question,
i recently gained access to test cyp, i really dont want to do a heavy cycle, is thier any way i could do a light cycle to supplament that natural test produced by my body? will even the lightest cycle stop my testies from producing testosterone ?
thanks in advanced, sry for the noob questions..
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05-03-2010, 02:50 AM #2
Nice post not sure of the answer though ill bump this for you and mabie one of the smarter guys will have an answer for you, good questions though was kinda wondering the same my self
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Different steroids are used for different goals (cutting, Bulking ect). There are many other reasons to stack aas, such as front loading but imo every cycle should include testosterone as a base..
To answer your other question we need your stats..
Age
Height
Bf%
Weight
Years training
Pct knowledge???
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05-03-2010, 06:01 AM #4
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05-03-2010, 04:31 PM #5New Member
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k guys i'm 5'9. 145 pound, probably 8% body fat, im very thin, 4-5 pack abs, but not shredded.
i used to be jacked, but i tore the tendons in my hand, had to take 14 weeks off and never went back to MMA, its been a year since i've been in the gym. i plan on hitting the gym hardcore for 8-12 months, then taking test cyp,
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how would doing less then 400mg be a waste, will the gains not be worth the side effects, or will there not be any gains. i mean it has to give u some edge rite?
i kno ppl with naturally high test levels so i was wondering if i could dose in a way that i would have a HIGH but normal test level
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05-03-2010, 04:48 PM #6Banned
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Your body produces naturally the equivalent of injecting 250 mg of testosterone . by taking 400 mg you barely increase your anabolic potential by 60%. The worst side effect (imo) from steroids is inhibition of natural production and it happens with a single 50 mg injection. So if you're gonna be supressed anyway, better make it worth it.
People stack steroids to be anabolic from week 1 to week (end).
Lets take example of a cycle
1-4 dbol
1-12 test-e
8-14 anavar
15+ pct.
Test-e supresses you from first injection, but will only give you results from week 5. so if you're gonna waste 4 weeks with no results being supressed, adding a fast-acting compound is a wise choice so you be anabolic from the start.
Same thing at the end. testosterone e takes 2-3 weeks to leave the body. so during those 2-3 weeks instead of waiting supressed with no results, we add a cutting compound until the pct.
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05-03-2010, 06:17 PM #7
100mg of E or C puts most guys into the high physiological range (~800ng/ml). This is because the body ideally produces up to 10mg of test per day, which is why the ~70mg of actual test from 100mg of E or C (remember to discount the ester weight) is perfect for most HRT patients.
If we naturally produced what you say we do, 500mg wouldn't be nearly as dramatic as it is, since it would only double your test levels. It takes a dramatic increase in test levels to cause any noticeable anabolic benefit, which is why test boosters (some of which have been shown to actually double natural test) don't do much.
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05-03-2010, 07:40 PM #8New Member
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considering we produce 70-120 mg of test a week would injecting 200 mg of test cyp equal to having 200mg of test in my body or will my body not absorb all of it
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05-03-2010, 10:45 PM #9
your body produces far less than the equivalent of a 250mg shot per week...just saying, more like about half that....out of 250 i dont rem. the exact numbers but with E or C your getting 160 - 170 of that, which puts you way over the range you would naturally produce per week...
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05-04-2010, 12:20 AM #10New Member
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yea i get that but im assuming it wouldnt be worth the PCT to do a cycle of 250mg a week
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05-04-2010, 12:58 PM #11
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OH HELLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You stole my nick !
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05-03-2010, 10:29 PM #14New Member
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05-04-2010, 09:43 PM #15
I dont have any data to back this up and its strictly my opinion but. Many times people who are running test over 500mgs per week end up using AI's and SERMS to combat sides to the extent the dose loses some of its effectiveness. Doses in the lower range usually dont require any of these products making them more more potent on a mg for mg basis.
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05-05-2010, 07:57 PM #16New Member
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i understand tht 250 is way more then produced in a week, im trying to decide whether it would be worth iit to take that much
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